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crashfrog
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Message 13 of 35 (48965)
08-06-2003 5:12 PM
Reply to: Message 12 by A_Christian
08-06-2003 4:36 PM


Re: needs updated response
I've never seen an ape conceive anything but an ape.
Humans are apes, so what's your point?
Anyway, speciation doesn't happen like that. A little research might behoove you before you present personal incredulity as some kind of logically valid argument.

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crashfrog
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Message 18 of 35 (49185)
08-07-2003 4:13 PM
Reply to: Message 17 by A_Christian
08-07-2003 1:44 PM


Re: needs updated response
While I can appreciate and respect those who have achieved educational
excellence within their field of expertice, that doesn't mean that
they have cornered the market on theoretical ideas nor that they're
any more superior simply because of their training/indoctrination.
Actually, that's exactly what it means.
I mean, I wouldn't presume to tell you how to interpret the bible without having read it myself, would I? That would be foolish and arrogant. So why do you feel it appropriate to overturn primatology based on nothing more than your uninformed opinion?
The point is, we can and do judge the validity of your opinion based on your expertise. That's why you see a doctor to take out your gallbladder and not a bus driver.

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crashfrog
Member (Idle past 1493 days)
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Message 26 of 35 (49457)
08-08-2003 4:58 PM
Reply to: Message 21 by A_Christian
08-08-2003 11:40 AM


It is a total waste
of effort, since you yourself and your cohorts have explained how
deficient I am
Well, there are none so blind as those who will not see.
The simple fact is that unless one is going to study ALL the
information
Sounds like a great idea. When are you going to start? I'm sure there's some copies of Nature laying around somewhere...
You understand even less about Creationism then I
understand about Evolution.
I doubt it. I've made a study of creationism for somce time now. And you forget - or didn't know, perhaps - that I was once a creationist, just like yourself. The funny thing is that while the knowledge of science doubles (or whatever) every few years, creationist arguments haven't changed since I was a teenager, ten years ago.
And I've always been interested in science. (I got A's too.) So I understand exactly what creationists are trying to do to science.
Look, get into science. For one thing you'll look like less of an idiot. For another, the wonders of the natural world as exposed by science are far more wonderous than anything in that book of yours. It's a rich, rich world that you're closing your eyes to. Open them and see what you've missed!

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crashfrog
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Message 29 of 35 (49468)
08-08-2003 6:27 PM
Reply to: Message 28 by A_Christian
08-08-2003 6:20 PM


Mark's been here for 2 years. You've been here a week. I'd be very careful about what you say he has and hasn't done. Is he supposed to take hours to show every creationist the same information over and over again?
the information you want is at this site, and others. You just need to look. He's asked you a direct question, which you have ignored. You say that evidence is being ignored. Well, let's see it! I promise we won't ignore it, as long as it's valid. Of course you should be prepared to defend it's validity.

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