One Question for Evo-Bashers

Given the broad spectrum of religious beliefs held by evolutionists
[ Christians, Moslems, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, atheists, deists, agnostics...etc. you name it. ] - the only commonality being the acceptance of mainstream science...Please explain why there are no secular creationists ?Those being persons that accept the creationist's 'science' and evidences without any religious affiliation.Surely creation science is based soley on evidence.Why hasn't this evidence convinced a single, solitary, secular scientist to side with the creationists ? ( pardon the alliteration )regards,jeff------------------
"Freedom of Religion" equates to Freedom -FROM- those religions we find unbelievable.

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Originally posted by sonnikke:

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Originally posted by Jeff:

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Please explain why there are no secular creationists ?

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Because it's an oxymoron, you cannot realize and accept God and that "natural un-guided processes" were NOT the cause of the world, and remain "secular". Once the veil is lifted off your mind, you will invariably become a christian scientist (creationist).

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But if Creation Science is truly science, then evidence is all that is required. It sounds as if you're adding requirements to Creation Science that regular 'secular' science does fine without.How would " realiz(ing) and accept(ing) God as... the cause of the world" be scientifically verified ?
IOW, how is personal, subjective revelation a part of objective science ?
If one insists on including these parameters in their science, these parameters must be testable, verifyable or falsifyable.
Otherwise, what you have is no longer science.

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Once the veil is lifted off your mind, you will invariably become a christian scientist (creationist).

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Is there a prescribed process we might follow to verify this claim ?
Perhaps a new drug that can medically " lift the veil off your mind " is in order ? ...maybe shock therapy ?regards,jeff------------------
"Freedom of Religion" equates to Freedom -FROM- those religions we find unbelievable.

I appreciate the lather, so well worked up by you fellows, but you're taking this thread off topic. We aren't trying to establish whether ID/C is a valid science. ( it isn't )
I have another thread started that would suit this subject very well:...have a viddy of the thread:
Exactly 'HOW' intelligent must a Designer be ?
http://EvC Forum: Exactly 'HOW' intelligent must a Designer be ? -->EvC Forum: Exactly 'HOW' intelligent must a Designer be ?If you see no problem with 'inferring a designer' because you WANT to see design in living things, perhaps there you might explain the methods & mechanisms used by this mysterious designer to implement and execute her alleged design ?Why is this never addressed by the ID/C croud ?
They pretend there's a design, then a designer...and then call it a day and stop. Pretty thin stuff.Ah, but I digress...Why are there no secular creationists ?
Why does their 'science' only impress christian fundementalists who insist on a literal interpretation ( an oxymoron ) of Genesis.Why aren't Hinduists & Buddhists impressed by Creation science and its evidence ?It seems to me that if you have to join a religious cult to appreciate their brand of science....it very likely isn't good science, but more trappings of their religious cult.regards,jeff------------------
"Freedom of Religion" equates to Freedom -FROM- those religions we find unbelievable.