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Originally posted by techristian:
Ok here is your answer Mark.
First of all I won't accept one type of GULL and another type of GULL. THEY ARE BOTH GULLS FOR CRYING OUT LOUD !
Secondly I won't accept one type of SALAMANDER and another type of salamander. THEY ARE BOTH SALAMANDERS !
Third I would like to ask if breeding was even ATTEMPTED (in a labratory) between both creatures at both ends of the "ring".
Why would anyone attempt to breed these species in a lab? What would that prove? Their ranges overlap at both ends. The critters don't interbreed. That by definition makes them distinct species. You can shout about them still be the same "kind" or whatever all you want, but that still doesn't change the fact that they are distinct species. Over time, the same mechanisms that created the two species in the first place can eventually cause these two populations to diverge even further. Shouting about it won't change the fact.
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I won't accept "Lucy". After watching that program I noticed many things that weren't quite right about the "skeleton" such as different color bones. (which would lead me to think that "Lucy" was actually a combination of the bones of more than one individual.) I wrote an entire paper on the "Lucy" program.
Wow. I'm impressed! You were able to see through that evil hoax via a made-for-TV documentary from the comfort of your own living room. I wish I had that ability. Do you have any idea how ludicrous that statement is? You, techchristian, were able to discover that the scientists who study human evolution all their lives were completely wrong. Based on a TV program. Amazing.
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To answer you honestly, there have been so many SCAMS with "Pilt Down Man" and others that I would almost need a missing link to walk up to me and say "I am a missing link. Try to disprove it!" Even "carbon dating" has been disproved when a pig bone (buried only a few years earlier) was said to be "MILLIONS OF YEARS OLD"
Piltdown Man was a hoax perpetrated
on scientists. It was debunked relatively immediately
by scientists (once they had the chance to examine it). By your standards, given all of the spurious "holy relics", false prophets, and fake "visions" Christianity has been plagued with over the centuries, you should automatically reject that, as well. As to the mis-dated pig bone - your assertion doesn't make it so. Care to give a reference? Any other "scams" you'd like to discuss?
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Scientists already tried to make their own "missing link" when they transplanted a baboon heart into a baby.............................. and FAILED MISERABLY.
I assume you were referring to the "Baby Fae" heart transplant that was an attempt to save the life of a new-born baby when no other appropriately-sized heart was available? I'd say it was a brave, if desperate (and probably foredoomed) effort to save a human life. Isn't that what you Christians are supposedly on about all the time? Saving babies? How you can say the doctors (not evolutionary biologists, btw) were trying "to create a missing link", rather than state what it was - a last-ditch attempt to save a child's life? Your comment is utterly indefensible. You need to seriously re-examine your sources of information.