Mankind and dinosaur side by side ? ?

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Originally posted by techristian:
I'm not sure how many toes were there, but I only SAW 4 toes. (but there was possibly another one next to the big toe) The size of foot and length of stride was consistent with an ERECT modern man just over 6 feet tall.

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As far as I know, you are one of the very few who actually believe in these tracks. Try this link: http://members.aol.com/Paluxy2/nbc.htm"Not only are Baugh and Patton's claims usupported by the evidence and rejected by mainstream scientists, but both are widely considered to be disreputable even by many creationists. In a Web page response to questions about Baugh, Answers in Genesis, a sister group of the Creation Science Foundation, listed numerous unsubstantiated claims by Baugh, and stated at their web site, "All creationist scientists that we have spoken to regard Dr. [sic] Baugh's teaching as a serious embarassment."[13]"

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Originally posted by Cobra_snake:
I'll go ahead and answer this one:

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"Now answer my question: why aren't there human bones found inside dinosaur ribcages?"

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First of all, it is very possible, even likely, that humans and carnivorous dinasaurs lived in seperate ecological zones. Also, it's not neccesarily even likely that dinasaurs would often eat humans (most animals are afraid of humans). Even if a dinasaur had eaten a human just previous to the flood, there is no guarantee that that dinausaur would be fossilized. And even if a dinasaur who had eaten a human WAS fossilized, the odds are it will never be discovered.

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Likely? How do you get "likely" for humans and predators in different ecological zones? Do you have any evidence for this? Do you know the ecological zone that dinosaurs lived in? Can you say that this (these) zone(s) had no humans? If so, why do we see human "footprints" in the same place with dinosaur footprints(see the title of this thread)?Care to try again?

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Originally posted by Cobra_snake:
It seems likely to me that humans would tend to live in different areas as opposed to living where supposedly blood-thirsty dinasaurs were roaming.

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That is hardly evidence. On the other hand if we look around today, we do find humans living not far from mammal predators and there is frequent interaction. Even in the ocean we find sharks with human remains and other artifacts in their stomachs. Seems to me the best assumption would be that humans and predatory dinosaurs would LIKELY have existed in the same environment. Even if it were to hunt the same prey.

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Also, I thought that the general consensus was that these reported "footprints" are fakes or something like that. Have I yet made any indication that I support Carl Baugh's findings and the like?

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Indeed that is the consensus. You were however suggesting that humans and dinos were contemoraneous. We are just asking for evidence of this. So far you have not offered any.

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Originally posted by Cobra_snake:
Also, I must reemphasize that EVEN if dinasaurs ate humans relatively often, it is unlikely that such evidence would be preserved in the fossil record and even more unlikely that humans would discover it.

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Can I reming you of this the next time you ask about why we don't have a continuous lineage of organisms to "prove" evolution.Also, part of the problem here is that we not only fail to find evidence of human predation by carnivorous dinosaurs, but there is no evidence anything human or human designed in any stratum containing evidence of dinosaurs. To me, this makes it more likely that humans and dinosaurs simply did not exist contemporaneously.

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Originally posted by Cobra_snake:
"He expounds on all sorts of topics, such as Biology, Geology, and Astrophysics, as if he was an expert, yet his degree is in Hydrolics."

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That doesn't mean he can't pontificate on other topics, it just means that one should be skeptical of what he says on these topics.

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And it also doesn't mean that we cannot critique his analyses and take potshots at his credentials. Basically, Morris is an engineer, and not a scientist.

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Originally posted by Quetzal:
Wow. I'm impressed! You were able to see through that evil hoax via a made-for-TV documentary from the comfort of your own living room. I wish I had that ability. Do you have any idea how ludicrous that statement is? You, techchristian, were able to discover that the scientists who study human evolution all their lives were completely wrong. Based on a TV program. Amazing.

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Well, after all, he(?) is Techchristian. You can't be expected to understand...

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Originally posted by Joe Meert:
Edge (off topic)

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Do you think my post on TalkOrigins was out-of-line or worth a ban? I am curious because of all the places I have been banned, I thought that was one of the least offensive posts ever.

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Cheers

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Joe Meert

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Heck no. Calling the other side's work pseudoscience is routine stuff, especially when it's true. And it wasn't personal, anyway. The point is that he really had no valid response to any of your arguments and he became frustrated. I really think Terry wants to have a nice bible discussion group where we all sit around and make up stories and agree with one another. At the same time, Terry gets pretty offensive himself, but it's his board. I accept the fact that my next post may be my last.I think the problem is that in academia we discuss things pretty frankly and are accustomed to the intellectual roughness. I remember getting into vicious arguments with my fellow grad students and then going out for a beer. Terry can't think like that. To him it's all personal.As you may know Matt has banned a few more from CARM lately. Apparently, it makes things worse if you try to explain why something you said was not really uncivil.

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Originally posted by Joe Meert:
Just don't say 'debunk'

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Cheers

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Joe Meert

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Actually, Terry just banned three more people including myself earlier today. It was really pretty comical. He had posted, "No one will say that Creation science is without scientific foundation either."There were just too many of us that couldn't resist... It made an otherwise bad day quite bearable.