Darwinist Creationists comments invited

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There are no definitions of Natural Selection on the web which do not require variation that I can find

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I've just googled "natural selection definition" and the first result I got was: PE------------------
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Originally posted by Syamsu:
Greater fitness only can refer to differing variants, not clones, in standard theory of Natural Selection.

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regards,
Mohammad Nor Syamsu

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Where do you get that idea from?PE

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Originally posted by Syamsu:
Evolution and Philosophy: Tautology

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"The current understanding of fitness is dispositional. That is to say, fitness is a disposition of a trait to reproduce better than competitors. It is not deterministic. If two twins are identical genetically, and therefore are equally fit, there is no guarantee that they will both survive to have equal numbers of offspring. Fitness is a statistical property." (John Wilkins, 1997)

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regards,
Mohammad Nor Syamsu

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I'm afraid you're going to have to spell out for me why you think fitness = variation. The above seems to contradict you, if anything.PE