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Andya Primanda
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Message 23 of 46 (19734)
10-12-2002 1:07 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by Quetzal
10-12-2002 10:04 AM


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I find it extremely interesting that an Islamic creationist uses exactly the same tactics and arguments as protestant fundamentalist ones from the other side of the planet. Is there some aspect of mainstream religion that I'm missing?
Quetzal (and others), I have a personal request to you all. Please don't be too hard on my brother Delshad. He's here to learn and I think that he can evaluate the available evidence to decide what he should accept. I know that you guys are able to crack the likes of Wordswordman and Peter Borger, but Delshad's not like them. Given enough discussions, maybe you can come to good terms with Delshad as you do to Tranquility Base & TrueCreation.
To Delshad: I know that you might be bored with the other topics, but please make some comments on them. We are waiting.

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Andya Primanda
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Message 24 of 46 (19735)
10-12-2002 1:13 PM
Reply to: Message 19 by mark24
10-12-2002 11:02 AM


Mark, maybe you're attacking a strawman. While YEC freaks entertain the idea of a global Noachian flood, Muslims have different opinions about that. I adhere to the view that it was local; don't know about Delshad but I think he can state clearly what he thinks about that matter. Also, if he happens to entertain Harun Yahya's creationism version, I can be 80% sure that he would say anything about flood geology nonsense. Harun Yahya is an ID supporter; probably closer to Philip Johnson & such, not ICR.

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Andya Primanda
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Message 28 of 46 (19740)
10-12-2002 1:25 PM
Reply to: Message 21 by John
10-12-2002 11:07 AM


Say, John, care to discuss more about the evolution of flight and feathers? I don't find the dinosaur-to-bird theory plausible; I prefer Feduccia & Mayr's view (stem reptiles-to-birds). Flight can only evolve top-down, not bottom-up: Darwin chose a really smart model in flying squirrels, so my speculation is that Archaeopteryx's predecessors were arboreal reptiles which evolved something like a gliding membrane. Try Svend Palm's opinion about this
http://home13.inet.tele.dk/palm/origbird.htm
As for feathers, maybe they're still useful as cannon fodder for creationists. I cannot find any info about how they might have evolved... Does the protein that builds feathers have any affinition to reptile-scale proteins?

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