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Topic: One of the many things evolutionists avoid to respond
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mark24
Member (Idle past 5216 days) Posts: 3857 From: UK Joined: 12-01-2001
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Message 2 of 46 (19651)
10-11-2002 4:02 PM
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Reply to: Message 1 by Delshad 10-11-2002 2:40 PM
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Delshad, Serious question, it is related I assure you, then I'll get to answering your question. Q/ Do you believe a global flood is responsible for fossil deposition, & if so, which "mainstream" strata does it begin & end? Like starts Cambrian, ends Cretaceous sort of thing. ------------------ Occam's razor is not for shaving with.
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mark24
Member (Idle past 5216 days) Posts: 3857 From: UK Joined: 12-01-2001
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Message 7 of 46 (19690)
10-11-2002 8:06 PM
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Reply to: Message 5 by Delshad 10-11-2002 7:59 PM
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To mark24: Im quite embaressed because I dont really understand the question properly...but, yes I do believe that in most cases ( especially when we are talking about millions of years), large quantity of the fossils will perish.
What I mean is, you know the geological time periods, Jurassic, Triassic, etc. When do you think the flood started & ended. I appreciate you may think that the bulk of the geologic column formed in a year, rather than in millions of years, but, the question stands, what part of the geologic column denotes the start & stop of the flood? For example, most creationists think the flood started at the pre-cambrian/cambrian boundary (before the cambrian explosion) & ended at the cretaceous/tertiary boundary (Just above the last dinosaur fossil, that good for you?. Hope that's clearer. Mark ------------------ Occam's razor is not for shaving with. [This message has been edited by mark24, 10-11-2002]
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mark24
Member (Idle past 5216 days) Posts: 3857 From: UK Joined: 12-01-2001
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Message 14 of 46 (19704)
10-12-2002 5:27 AM
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Reply to: Message 9 by Delshad 10-11-2002 8:33 PM
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quote: Originally posted by Delshad: Mark24, Generally The bulk of the Geological column would be in the cambrian period I would believe, but I could be wrong.
Not sure what you mean? You mean the flood started at beginning the cambrian? What strata did it end? Mat ------------------ Occam's razor is not for shaving with.
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mark24
Member (Idle past 5216 days) Posts: 3857 From: UK Joined: 12-01-2001
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Message 18 of 46 (19720)
10-12-2002 10:59 AM
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Reply to: Message 15 by Delshad 10-12-2002 7:18 AM
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Soz, double post. [This message has been edited by mark24, 10-12-2002] [This message has been edited by mark24, 10-12-2002]
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mark24
Member (Idle past 5216 days) Posts: 3857 From: UK Joined: 12-01-2001
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Message 19 of 46 (19721)
10-12-2002 11:02 AM
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Reply to: Message 15 by Delshad 10-12-2002 7:18 AM
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Delshad, You think the flood onset occurs with the beginning of the cambrian period, & ends at the K-T boundary. In that case, why are there missing fossils for whales in post cretaceous deposits? They should appear IMMEDIATELY post flood, but, OMG, there are fossil gaps post flood too!!!!! How do you explain the anomoly of missing fossils that occur after the flood? Artifacts of preservation? Mark ------------------ Occam's razor is not for shaving with.
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mark24
Member (Idle past 5216 days) Posts: 3857 From: UK Joined: 12-01-2001
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Message 25 of 46 (19736)
10-12-2002 1:17 PM
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Reply to: Message 22 by Delshad 10-12-2002 12:56 PM
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Delshad,
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Why is it so that the fossils never show us a find of specie possesing organs or traits that have been used or will used in the future, punctuated equilibrium can`t be credited alone to have made the transformation of Compsognathus-Archaeopteryx in an instance, right?
You're just plain wrong here. There have been more fossils discovered in china that place several organisms between compsognathus & Archeopteryx. Sinosauropteryx, Caudipteryx, Protoarcheopteryx to name but 3. And Confuciornis slots in after Archeopteryx, as a more modern bird. Interestingly, the first three are covered with "downy, feather like fibres". Caudipteryx has a stiff "true" feathered tail & hands. None (other than the post archaeopterix) can fly, showing feathers evolved before flight, probably first for insulation, then to attract a mate. Also, message 19, please. Mark ------------------ Occam's razor is not for shaving with.
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mark24
Member (Idle past 5216 days) Posts: 3857 From: UK Joined: 12-01-2001
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quote: Originally posted by Andya Primanda: Mark, maybe you're attacking a strawman. While YEC freaks entertain the idea of a global Noachian flood, Muslims have different opinions about that. I adhere to the view that it was local; don't know about Delshad but I think he can state clearly what he thinks about that matter. Also, if he happens to entertain Harun Yahya's creationism version, I can be 80% sure that he would say anything about flood geology nonsense. Harun Yahya is an ID supporter; probably closer to Philip Johnson & such, not ICR.
Delshad already HAS entertained the idea of a flood, he has told me when it starts & stops. Mark ------------------ Occam's razor is not for shaving with.
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mark24
Member (Idle past 5216 days) Posts: 3857 From: UK Joined: 12-01-2001
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Message 33 of 46 (19749)
10-12-2002 5:30 PM
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Reply to: Message 32 by Delshad 10-12-2002 4:46 PM
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That put a crimp in an otherwise damn fine plan....... Mark ------------------ Occam's razor is not for shaving with.
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