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jar
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Message 16 of 113 (403227)
06-01-2007 12:21 PM
Reply to: Message 15 by dwise1
06-01-2007 12:14 PM


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To carry your example one step further, what is seen is often multimodal. As you look more closely at a population you find there will be clusters around certain traits.

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Message 32 of 113 (403420)
06-02-2007 3:23 PM
Reply to: Message 31 by ircarrascal
06-02-2007 3:07 PM


Re: Thanks
Some folk behave that way.
Sorry.
You asked some good questions. The first had to do with "Why are not fish intelligent (like human inteligence I mean)?"
Well the answer is that what happens during evolution is what is just good enough to live long enough to breed and pass on the genes. There is no pressure for something to evolve beyond just good enough.
You then asked...
Anyways, perhaps a related question then is how two (new?) species can coexist?
... and the answer is that it is not a replacement scenario. Some critters moving from sea to land does not mean all critters making the move. Some critters evolving to exploit some new food source does not mean all critters evolving to exploit that food source.
So what is the next question?

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Message 61 of 113 (407522)
06-26-2007 3:45 PM
Reply to: Message 59 by Simonsays
06-26-2007 3:25 PM


Re: I don't think so !
Does anyone here (besides me) no what a warrant is in a logical argument?
Some of us know that "know" is not spelled "no." That is a no-no.
Some of us also understand the difference between "Truth-preservation" models and "warrant-preservation" models.
Some of us even know that you are just shovelin' shit and are clueless of the topic.
A few of us even followed the Intutionists over the years which is also totally irrelevant to anything in this topic.

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jar
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Message 70 of 113 (407560)
06-26-2007 7:45 PM
Reply to: Message 69 by Simonsays
06-26-2007 7:32 PM


Re: I don't think so !
Have you ever heard of the term unwarranted conclusion(ie,a not warranted conclusion,a conclusion with no warrant to support it). If not, see the above quote...It's a good example of one. You have no idea what I do or do not know, have or have not read. I've noticed that True Christians/Creationists seem to have this uncanny ability to just know things.(unfettered by fact and with little or no evidence).
Unquestioned Truth is not truth at all... It's merely dogma.
Huh?
LOL
You really don't understand the term Warrant in a logical construction do you. Presumptuous of you. LOL
And what does the rest of your post have to do with the topic?
If you actually have a point related to the thread, why not just bring it up. Don't try to baffle us with bullshit, some of us have been shoveling it far longer than you.
What exactly is it about dwise1's post that you disagree with? If you think he is jumping to an unwarranted conclusion, explain exactly why you believe that is so.
Step through your support and present your best argument for your position. Stop trying to peddle unrelated jargon. Where's the beef?

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Message 79 of 113 (407942)
06-29-2007 11:28 AM
Reply to: Message 77 by AdminWounded
06-29-2007 10:39 AM


Re: Evo Devo & horse/zebra cross breed
And fix them long ass links while you are at it.

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Message 93 of 113 (408762)
07-04-2007 6:34 PM
Reply to: Message 92 by Simonsays
07-04-2007 5:55 PM


Re: I don't think so !
Well so far, you have been unable to present a general principle that explains why your use of the word "warrant" is relevant to this thread.
Perhaps if you have something of relevance either on why you think the term warrant is relevant or on the subject of the thread, now might be a good time to present your evidence and to explain the general principle that explains why your evidence is even relevant.

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Message 97 of 113 (408785)
07-04-2007 10:05 PM
Reply to: Message 96 by Percy
07-04-2007 9:36 PM


Re: I don't think so !
Percy, he is using "warrant" to mean the General Principle, inferences and assumptions explaining why evidence is relevant to some claim.
It's pretty much irrelevant in this thread and has been pretty well covered in the posts.
It was, though, a major scoring point during Middle School debates.

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