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Omnivorous
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Message 62 of 246 (250781)
10-11-2005 11:27 AM
Reply to: Message 51 by robinrohan
10-10-2005 7:56 PM


Re: Reproductive isolation
robinrohan writes:
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Other types of isolation include behavioral isolation, where potential mates don't recognize each other's behavior as signals for mating
What would be the cause of this change of behavior?
Though this is more properly reproductive failure than isolation (unless you consider failure to be total isolation), one unfortunate, novel cause is pollution: pesticides and endocrine disruptors are impacting birds and aquatic vertebrates alike. I saw some popular coverage of this a few weeks ago; I'll see if I can come up with a link later.
Perhaps natural (botanical) endocrine disruptors or other naturally occuring substances could biochemically change reproductive behavior in one part of a species' habitat range but not another. If the species had complex reproductive behavior, the loss of a single behavioral component (say singing remains but tail display lost) might begin to isolate that population. Or maybe a hyperpredator on the margin of a range starts wolfing down every cock who crows too loudly--a few nerdish cocks might survive and pass on their lives of quiet desperation
Failure to respond to reproductive stimuli, failure to respond appropriately to threat, gonadal development failure--the soup of complex compounds we have made of the earth is beginning to show up in unexpected ways.
I have always felt uncomfortable about evaluations of toxicity performed on isolated compounds: sure, 1 part per brazillion demonstrates no toxicity, but what if we put that compound into a body/ecosystem that already contains a thousand other pollutants?
Anyway, that's an off-topic pet peeve...

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Message 224 of 246 (256164)
11-02-2005 9:07 AM
Reply to: Message 219 by Percy
11-01-2005 12:52 PM


Re: Instant Speciation
Percy writes:
How does polyploidy produced a mutually fertile population in a single generation?
Another possibility is extrinsic causation: for example, the drug colchicine can create polyploidal plants.
If an external stimulus (chemical, viral, etc.) creates polyploidy, and a significant fraction of a population (rather than just an individual) is subjected to the stimulus, then finding a polyploidal mate might be fairly likely.

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Message 230 of 246 (256276)
11-02-2005 2:31 PM
Reply to: Message 229 by NosyNed
11-02-2005 1:38 PM


Re: Not the best example
I ran across a proffered example last night--I believe it was bivalves. I'll see if I can find it again.

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