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Author Topic:   Homosexuality, the natural choice? (Gay Animals are Common)
Scaryfish
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Message 43 of 306 (374883)
01-06-2007 5:08 AM
Reply to: Message 37 by Fosdick
01-03-2007 7:50 PM


Re: a benefit or not ...
I had heard that male-male ram behaviour included anal penetration, but I can't find the reference for that. But here is an article I did find (although because I'm not a student any more I can't look up the actual paper, but the title makes it fairly explicit).
Erwin, J. & Maple, T., 1976
Ambisexual behavior with male-male anal penetration in male rhesus monkeys. ARCH. SEXUAL BEHAV. 5(1): 9-14
One pair of male rhesus monkeys reared in the laboratory with exclusive social access to each other during their second year of life were observed to display reciprocal mounting with anal penetration on several occasions. Their mounts were of comparable duration to those which have been observed in matching heterosexual pairs, by contrast with the brief mounts which are often observed in dominance interactions. The postures exhibited by the mounted male resembled those typical of females during heterosexual coitus, while the mounting male displayed the species-typical male copulatory position. Each male at times assumed either role. Ejaculation was not documented during these male-male interactions, although it may have occurred. Both males performed adequately with familiar and unfamiliar females (including ejaculation), but a preference test demonstrated that these males preferred contact with one another to contact with a sexually receptive unfamiliar female. These males displayed an unusual amount of affectionate behavior (by contrast with other rhesus males) including extended periods of contact with embracing and grooming. It is suggested that the relationship between these males was primarily based on mutual affection, although a sexual component was unmistakably present.
Edited by Scaryfish, : Edit to add abstract

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Scaryfish
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Message 45 of 306 (374966)
01-06-2007 3:41 PM
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01-06-2007 12:47 PM


Re: a benefit or not ...
That does seem to be pretty much the consensus among scientists, at least from what I have read.
You have to be careful though - there is strong evidence that environmental factors during gestation (hormone levels, for example) could play a role as well. The most likely answer is that there are multiple genetic loci that can affect the chance of a child being homosexual, as well as environmental influences - but it does appear that these environmental influences act at a very early stage, probably before birth.

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