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Author Topic:   Homosexuality, the natural choice? (Gay Animals are Common)
ReverendDG
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Message 59 of 306 (375210)
01-07-2007 10:25 PM
Reply to: Message 52 by Fosdick
01-07-2007 2:31 PM


Re: a benefit or not ...
Porn? How so?
the bias that two gay men having sex or kissing is gross but two gay women are not
The out-of-the-closet gays seem to be playing at the political arena. It's not a show I particularly care to see, but I don't disdain them. No gay person should ever be abused for being gay, and I don't count the current marraige laws as a form of gay abuse.
it is abuse, you don't consider giving someone a right that everyone else has to be abuse? its just the same as any other group of people, they are discriminating aganst something that is part of the person.
The issue of being gay by choice vs. being gay by nature IS relevant. If it has a genetic component then this issue over choice will be varified when the gene(s) can be switched off. If it has other complications, as you contend, then of course the problem is greater.
ok you don't get how it works, people don't consider it a choice at all! being gay is not the same as having same sex with someone, no gay person considers having same sex being gay.
do you consider someone who has hetro-sex hetrosexual? or do you not understand that the word referes to attraction and has for nearly 80 years?
by the way theres many factors why someone might be gay not just one, and the only people that would want it turned off are bigots, who are the main cause of gay people not wanting to be gay
Maybe there is no "problem" at all. Maybe gays are natural. That's why I wondered about gay behavior in other animals. Not being gay myself, I see it as an aberration. Maybe I should accept it as fringe characteristric, like musical savants and dwarfism. I'm still muttering over this issue, trying to keep an over mind.
sorry but i find your bigotry sickining. for someone who's "trying" to have an openmind you already show you already closed the door on this issue
the fact is if it is found it nature it is part of nature and not an abberration
yes because they are gay or a dwarf or anything they are fringe and should be ignored till they are a problem for you.
my faith in humanity just went down a notch

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ReverendDG
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Message 60 of 306 (375211)
01-07-2007 10:26 PM
Reply to: Message 56 by Fosdick
01-07-2007 8:38 PM


Re: Gay "marriage" & gay genes
All right, I carried the analogy a little too far. This entire issue will evaporate like hot sweat when gay-gene therapy becomes a clinical out-patience procedure.
yes because being gay is a bad thing and somehow effects your life and well being, get over it

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ReverendDG
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Message 61 of 306 (375215)
01-07-2007 10:31 PM
Reply to: Message 57 by Taz
01-07-2007 9:03 PM


Re: Gay "marriage" & gay genes
when people are hated for the people they love, the human race has lost all hope of ever being happy ever again
and when it matters who loves you, instead of that fact that you have people who love you, i have lost all hope for humanity
it makes me sick inside that what sex you are, what color,religion, or ethicity matters in anything when it comes to compassion and love for other people
it just makes me want to cry and ask god why he doesn't do anything

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ReverendDG
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Message 229 of 306 (376127)
01-11-2007 4:31 AM
Reply to: Message 227 by New Cat's Eye
01-10-2007 11:55 PM


Re: 14th Amendment
There's 1000+ laws in there written under the impresion that marriage was heterosexual. To change the definition of that word to include homosexual marriages could result in problems, what problems? I don't know specifically (as opposed to generally). The issue, for me, is that it seems a little irresposible to just change the definition and see what happens.
thats because no gays were allowed to marry, heck it was a horrible thing to be for thousands of years, well in some places
as for america, why would we have laws built for a group that doesn't care?
this a pretty weak argument CS, i'm confused how changing the rights of people will effect the laws? do you really have an argument for this or is this just begging the question and fearmongering?
I think using a new term is a better solution than changing the definition of a well established term.
why? words change all the time, why should marriage not be changed to fit how our world works? this doesn't seem like anything more than a fear of losing a word that didn't mean what you think it does
i could list the different marrages that the world has known, in anthropology marriage is a religious or secluar bond between two or more persons of both sexes
the only reason it works the way it does is to cut down on confusion between people over wealth and property, nothing more, only since gays wanted to get married has it been about love or procration and god and crap like that

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