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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1494 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
How am I doing so far? Not well. How about addressing 18 pages of argument that civil unions aren't an acceptable solution, particularly since they don't fucking exist?
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Fosdick  Suspended Member (Idle past 5527 days) Posts: 1793 From: Upper Slobovia Joined: |
How about addressing 18 pages of argument that civil unions aren't an acceptable solution, particularly since they don't fucking exist?
Well, if they don't fucking exists then how do you know they are not the fucking solution? ”Hoot Mon
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1494 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
Well, if they don't fucking exists then how do you know they are not the fucking solution? Do you see what I mean about you not taking this seriously?
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Dan Carroll Inactive Member |
If you keep soilutioning yourself, you should probably calm down.
The really obvious fact about civil unions, that a separate institution is inherently unequal, has been explained you so many times that my semi-retarded dog has started rolling his eyes every time you fail to get it. It's kind of cute, actually.
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Fosdick  Suspended Member (Idle past 5527 days) Posts: 1793 From: Upper Slobovia Joined: |
crashfrog responded to my question:
What are you talking about? It's good question. If you can't or won't answer it then you're the one not taking this seriously. Well, if they don't fucking exists then how do you know they are not the fucking solution?
Do you see what I mean about you not taking this seriously? ”Hoot Mon
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Fosdick  Suspended Member (Idle past 5527 days) Posts: 1793 From: Upper Slobovia Joined: |
Dan Carroll wrote:
Danny Boy, if you can refer to your semi-retarded dog in these posts I ought get away with a sailboat reference once in a while. If you keep soilutioning yourself, you should probably calm down.The really obvious fact about civil unions, that a separate institution is inherently unequal, has been explained you so many times that my semi-retarded dog has started rolling his eyes every time you fail to get it. It's kind of cute, actually. This "really obvious fact" of yours about civil unions? WHY is a separate institution for gays inherently unequal? By what principles of equality? Is it the principle that just because you believe it to be true then it is automatically a fact. Gimme something sustantial. What's wrong with trying civi unions? ”Hoot Mon
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1494 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
What are you talking about? It's good question. Asking why a solution that relies on something that doesn't exist isn't a good solution is a good question, to you? Not to play the question game, here, but what exactly is your problem? And when are you going to address the rebuttals of your position?
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ringo Member (Idle past 439 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Hoot Mon writes: Well, if they don't fucking exists then how do you know they are not the fucking solution? That's like asking, "How do you know unicorns aren't the solution to world hunger?" Help scientific research in your spare time. No cost. No obligation. Join the World Community Grid with Team EvC
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Dan Carroll Inactive Member |
Danny Boy, if you can refer to your semi-retarded dog in these posts I ought get away with a sailboat reference once in a while. Jokes are a privilege, Hoot. First grow some funny.
This "really obvious fact" of yours about civil unions? WHY is a separate institution for gays inherently unequal? Gosh, we already went over that four days ago. But here you are, blindly repeating yourself as though nothing was said. Neat.
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Fosdick  Suspended Member (Idle past 5527 days) Posts: 1793 From: Upper Slobovia Joined: |
Ringo wrote:
Unicorns don't exist because they are gay, and thus they can't reproduce. Maybe straight unicorns ARE the answer to world hunger. But more to the point, I really don't see why granting gays their full civil-union rights should be offensive or ineffectual to them. If they want to call themselves "married," that's OK. But I don't see why the law needs to. That's like asking, "How do you know unicorns aren't the solution to world hunger?" I'm remined that DC has passed several brainstones over the FACT that gays CAN get married, if they do it according to tradition. And I also take notice that heterosexual people MAY NOT marry members of the same sex. You don't hear THEM bitching about it. ”Hoot Mon
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8554 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
I guess I don't understand the total issue here.
Civil Unions are real and available, at least in Vermont. Civil Unions are available as a solution to these issues if they can be made available in other states as well. Everyone seems to be wrapped around the "separate but equal" problem experienced in US race relations. Is this appropriate in the case of Gay Rights? Other than the perceived "stigma" of "separate but equal" from US racial history, are there other objections to Civil Union as a solution?
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Dan Carroll Inactive Member |
I'm remined that DC has passed several brainstones over the FACT that gays CAN get married, if they do it according to tradition. And I also take notice that heterosexual people MAY NOT marry members of the same sex. You don't hear THEM bitching about it. If by "passed brainstones", you mean "pointed out that the US Government already shot down this bullshit line of reasoning, a very long time ago," then yes. Yes I have. And yet you keep repeating it. Odd. Edited by Dan Carroll, : No reason given. Edited by Dan Carroll, : No reason given.
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Dan Carroll Inactive Member |
Other than the perceived "stigma" of "separate but equal" from US racial history, are there other objections to Civil Union as a solution? No. Civil unions are an excellent solution, if you are willing to ignore piddling little perceived stigmas like "segregation" and "institutionalized bigotry". Other than that, they're great. Hooray for that comfy seat in the back of the bus.
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ringo Member (Idle past 439 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Hoot Mon writes: If they want to call themselves "married," that's OK. But I don't see why the law needs to. And that's your answer right there: if the law doesn't "need to" recognize the same rights for gays as for everybody else, that's discrimination.
And I also take notice that heterosexual people MAY NOT marry members of the same sex. You don't hear THEM bitching about it. On the contrary, almost everybody who is bitching about it on this thread is heterosexual. I DO want the right to marry the person of my choice, without anybody looking under his/her skirt to check his/her qualifications. Help scientific research in your spare time. No cost. No obligation. Join the World Community Grid with Team EvC
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Fosdick  Suspended Member (Idle past 5527 days) Posts: 1793 From: Upper Slobovia Joined: |
DC writes:
Gosh, first to ask me to repeat myself, then you blame me for repearting myself. I'm so confused I may need to consult Dr. Laura (who hates the gays like guinea worms!). Gosh, we already went over that four days ago. But here you are, blindly repeating yourself as though nothing was said. ”Hoot Mon
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