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Headcase
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Message 1 of 84 (55535)
09-15-2003 1:51 PM


Why could God not have created a Universe with 15 billion years of "Evolution" in only 6 days? He made a grown man who walked and talked, it didnt take him 30 years. He created a fruit bearing tree, it didn't take him seven years(the average time of fruition). Why not create an earth with 4 billion years of geological evidence? Expalining all radio carbon dating. Why not create a universe with INHERENT AGE? When god created the animals, why not use evolution? He spoke these being into existance in little time, using a process of great ease and logical consequential form.... GET A NEW TOPIC! peace, love and chicken grease c/o BJU

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awinkisas
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Message 2 of 84 (55537)
09-15-2003 2:18 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Headcase
09-15-2003 1:51 PM


So god created a universe in 6 days but made it appear that it really took 14 billion year and that it could have occured naturally? Why did he try to trick us? Does he want us to doubt his existence?

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Headcase
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Message 3 of 84 (55560)
09-15-2003 4:52 PM


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God is not the "author of confusion" that is satan's job...
God did not trick us...
If God wanted to create something in 6 days that would, outside the power of God, take 15 billion years to create... He could...
Maybe it is a test to see who will stay faithful to Him in the end times... I'm not God, I don't why he would vitally
speak things into existance, then through a sheer mechanical means cause them to come about... I John 5:13

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PaulK
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Message 4 of 84 (55562)
09-15-2003 5:00 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by Headcase
09-15-2003 4:52 PM


Re: Reply
YOur answer doesn't seem to make sense.
First you say that God wouldn't and did not create a universe with a false age.
Then you seem to say that he might deceive people as a "test".
Can you explain ?

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Headcase
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Message 5 of 84 (55564)
09-15-2003 5:12 PM


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It is not "False Age", It is REAL AGE created inherently at the time of creation...
I did not say He might deceive, God does not lie...
God does test character...
Objectify responses please...Anger is not needed...

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PaulK
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Message 6 of 84 (55566)
09-15-2003 5:29 PM
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09-15-2003 5:12 PM


Re: Reply
If God doesn't deceive then the universe really is about 15 billion years old.
But how is your "inherent age" not a false age ?

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zephyr
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Message 7 of 84 (55567)
09-15-2003 5:33 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by Headcase
09-15-2003 5:12 PM


Re: Reply
quote:
It is not "False Age", It is REAL AGE created inherently at the time of creation...
Please do attempt to explain the difference! If it is real age, why has it been concealed from us by religious leaders and discovered by infidels?
quote:
I did not say He might deceive, God does not lie...
God does test character...
So he plants evidence for things that his book contradicts, and then he slams everyone who goes with the most trustworthy knowledge they have - firsthand observation. I don't buy it. Why do so many consider belief in a young earth to be a requirement of true faith when our senses and reasoning capability, applied in the most sensible manner, tell us that it is old?
quote:
ify responses please...Anger is not needed...
I think you mean "objective." I don't objectify an answer unless it's in the form of a busty brunette in a tight little dress.

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Headcase
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Message 8 of 84 (55568)
09-15-2003 5:40 PM


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Be not deceived... God is not mocked whatever a man soweth, that also shall he reap.

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Headcase
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Message 9 of 84 (55569)
09-15-2003 5:43 PM


Do you really think that religious leaders had the scientific instruments and calculations and theories we have today? So that being said, how could they "hide" this from their contemporaries?...
Like I've said:
"A TEST OF CHARACTER"

Brian
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Message 10 of 84 (55570)
09-15-2003 5:45 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by Headcase
09-15-2003 5:12 PM


Re: Reply
Hi,
Does God also make it appear as though the Earth orbits the Sun, when in actual fact it is the Sun that orbits the Earth?
Does He also make it look as though four different people wrote the Torah when in reality it was only one person?
What other things does God get up to when He is bored?
Brian.

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xwhydoyoureyesx
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Message 11 of 84 (55571)
09-15-2003 5:46 PM


Come on, your idea that God only made it look like the earth is billions of years old is based on what? nothing. Just a futile attempt to rationalize religion. And when you are challenged with this fact you respond with "I don't know, I'm not God."

zephyr
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Message 12 of 84 (55576)
09-15-2003 5:56 PM
Reply to: Message 8 by Headcase
09-15-2003 5:40 PM


Re: Reply
quote:
Be not deceived... God is not mocked whatever a man soweth, that also shall he reap.
Are you talking to me or somebody else? Try hitting the reply button on a particular post - it will reduce the confusion you create.
As far as this quotation, it is rather inappropriate in the current discussion. Are you trying to avoid real discussion by threatening me with divine judgment for using the reasoning capabilities with which I was born? I don't take it seriously, but anyone who did would be very offended.

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xwhydoyoureyesx
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Message 13 of 84 (55577)
09-15-2003 6:05 PM
Reply to: Message 12 by zephyr
09-15-2003 5:56 PM


Re: Reply
Are you trying to avoid real discussion by threatening me with divine judgment for using the reasoning capabilities with which I was born?
Watch out! you might get smote. God doesn't like a thinker.
[This message has been edited by xwhydoyoureyesx, 09-15-2003]

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Rei
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Joined: 09-03-2003


Message 14 of 84 (55588)
09-15-2003 6:50 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Headcase
09-15-2003 1:51 PM


Ah...
Ah, the "Mean Prankster God" theory. Where's that quote... Ah, here it is - from Bill Hicks:
--------------
Get this, I actually asked one of these guys, OK, Dinosaurs fossils - how does that fit into you scheme of life?
Let me sit down and strap in.
He said, "Dinosaur fossils? God put those there to test our faith."
Thank God I'm strapped in right now here man.
I think God put you here to test my faith, Dude.
You believe that?
"uh huh."
Does that trouble anyone here? The idea that God.. might be.. f***in' with our heads? I have trouble
sleeping with that knowledge. Some prankster God running around:
"Hu hu ho. We will see who believes in me now, ha ha."
[mimes God burying fossils]
"I am God, I am a prankster."
"I am killing Me."
You know, You die and go to St. Peter...
"Did you believe in dinosaurs?"
"Well, yeah. There was fossils everywhere"
Thuh [trapdoor opens]
"Aaaaaaarhhh!"
"You f***in idiot."
"Flying lizards, you're a moron. God was fuckin' with you!"
"It seemed so plausible, ahhhh!"
"Enjoy the lake of fire, f***er!"
------------------
"Illuminant light,
illuminate me."

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Headcase
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Message 15 of 84 (55616)
09-15-2003 8:20 PM
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09-15-2003 6:50 PM


Re: Ah...
God tempts no man... but he does allow it... Temptation is no sin... Adam was tempted... He failed... Jesus was tempted... He did not fail... He did not fall short... He did not deserve death... He took that penalty willingly... For you... For me... Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth and the life, no man comes to the Father except by me."

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