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Headcase Inactive Member |
I don't believe in purple pixies on Venus. I've been there and looked everywhere. I didn't see any...
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Brian Member (Idle past 4959 days) Posts: 4659 From: Scotland Joined: |
HI,
I am sorry but your information regarding Muhammad is incorrect. Muhammad never wrote a thing, he was illiterate so how could he have written anything? A little research is all it takes to correct your error. Brian.
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awinkisas Inactive Member |
Sorry, but God does create broken vessels meant for destruction. If I understand you correctly you are saying that some people are pre-destined for Hell. In other words they don't have any choice in the matter. What happened to free will? I thought god wanted all men to be saved?"Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth." 1 Timothy 2:4
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Karl Inactive Member |
How you can get from "God so loved the world" to God hating anyone is beyond me. God's motivation in Incarnation is His love of the whole world.
It's a relief that your God isn't the real one.
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Headcase Inactive Member |
So God doesn't hate anyone?
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Headcase Inactive Member |
God knew where you were going, be it either heaven or hell, when he created you... That is what Jeremiah speaks of when he makes the analogy of the pots for royal use and pots for destruction,
God wants everyone to be saved... He is not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance...
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Headcase Inactive Member |
Okay, Mooham add didnt write nothin, I misspoke, Please forgive the intrusion on the immplacable doctrine of man...
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3941 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0 |
Headcase, in message 1:
quote: awinkisas, in message 2:
quote: OK, I propose that the story is, that God created the universe via evolutionary (in the broad sense of the term) processes, over a +/- 15 billion years, and then passed down an extremely simplified version of the story, which had the creation happening in 6 days. And/or the story God passed down has gotten very distorted by man, as time has passed. Moose ------------------Professor, geology, Whatsamatta U Evolution - Changes in the environment, caused by the interactions of the components of the environment. My big page of Creation/Evolution Links
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xwhydoyoureyesx Inactive Member |
You assert the statement that there is no God, RIGHT? The burden of proof is on you. You have a poor defense of your belief as an atheist. Where is you EVIDENCE to support your THEORY of atheism? No I don't, I never said that. Wrong. How can i have a belief innonexistance? such reasoning defies logic. I think someone above this said something about proving the non-existence of pink elephants... I don't believe there is a god because there is no objective evidence for his existence. There is no "theory of atheism," I'm sure all atheists here would agree that if there was a parting of the clouds with a bright light and a booming voice that yes there was a god. How can you actively disbelieve in something? I require no faith system to not believe.
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zephyr Member (Idle past 4550 days) Posts: 821 From: FOB Taji, Iraq Joined: |
quote:The God described in these posts is either not omniscient or not omnipotent. Let's start with the first part: he knew where I (for example) was going before he created me. That means that he knows, right now, whether I am going to heaven or hell. That's part of omniscience. Let us assume, for the sake of discussion, that I am destined for hell because I don't believe in him, and my faith of past years is probably not going to get me anywhere, especially after what I'm posting tonight. Now, since God is omnipotent, and he doesn't want me to go to hell, I won't go to hell. But wait - God already knew where I was going when I was created. It has already been determined by him, and he knows it, and being infallible, he can't be wrong. So, it's outside of his power to change my destiny! To quote Douglas Adams: "Oh dear," says God, "I hadn't thought of that," and promptly vanishes in a puff of logic.
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Asgara Member (Idle past 2302 days) Posts: 1783 From: Wisconsin, USA Joined: |
If your god is unwilling that any should perish, then why would he create beings that he "knows" will not accept him?
Omniscience and free will are mutually exclusive concepts...can't have it both ways. ------------------Asgara "An unexamined life is not worth living" Socrates via Plato
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Headcase Inactive Member |
The problem with your theory doc is that it contradicts the Bible... It didn't take God 15 billion years, it took him 6 days, the Bible is never in error... if the mechanical science version contradicts the Bible then it is wrong. If you believe the Bible is in error and distorted by man, whats the point in believeing in it at all... You might as well base your belief in God on the Koran or Vedas or whatever the Hindu sacred text is... There is big difference between giving God the nod as the old man in the rocking chair sittin back with galss of lemonade loving the world that he merely started then let go and vaguely recorded in this somewhat truthful book, The bible... and Giving God His Due Respect as lord of all inerrant and irrefutable... Not to say that I have never thought as you do, because i have, then i got to know the lord better through His word...
He loves me personally and I know he watching and leading every step i make
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Headcase Inactive Member |
God created baby killing homosexual pedafiles, did he make them do it?
Or did they choose that path for themselves... Just because God gives you a chance doesn't make him wrong... He is willing that none should perish and that all should come to repentance... That doesn't mean they will... God creates things perfectly, their will is the one that condemns them ...
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Headcase Inactive Member |
God is so powerful he gives you the right to choose, just because he doesnt want you to go to hell doesn't mean he wont send you there if you dont accept the sacrafice Jesus has made for you...
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Brian Member (Idle past 4959 days) Posts: 4659 From: Scotland Joined: |
God created baby killing homosexual pedafiles, did he make them do it? Yes He made them do it, it is all part of His plan, which is beyond our understanding.
Or did they choose that path for themselves... No God chose that path when he created them as baby killing homosexual pedophiles.
Just because God gives you a chance doesn't make him wrong... You dont have a chance, if you are save then you are saved, nothing you can do about it either way.
He is willing that none should perish and that all should come to repentance... Untrue, opnly God's Elect will be saved, the rest of you lot will burn.
God creates things perfectly, their will is the one that condemns them ... Untrue, the Bible never states that God created anything 'perfectly', He certainly goofed with Adam and Eve. it would be their imperfect will then that condemns them, a will that God created. Brian. [This message has been edited by Brian, 09-17-2003]
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