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Author Topic:   Where is the evidence for evolution?
David unfamous
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Message 10 of 367 (30170)
01-25-2003 11:51 AM
Reply to: Message 9 by Bald ape
01-25-2003 4:56 AM


We can't escape the reality that time, chance and natural accidents cannot create what only a Supreme God CAN!
That is either a statement from ignorance, or a conscious lie. Unless you have evidence of what a 'supreme god' can and cannot create, and whether there is such a thing as a supreme god, or any gods, or how your logic explains how life cannot possibly exist without design yet a god can just exist without design, then have a good think about what you're saying.

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David unfamous
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Message 18 of 367 (30244)
01-26-2003 8:40 AM
Reply to: Message 11 by peter borger
01-25-2003 8:07 PM


Design can be concluded from genetic redundancies. If they don't demonstrate association with gene duplication and do not change faster than essential genes they can be taken as proof for design. That's exactly what we see in life. So, the debate can be concluded: design.
How do you explain the genetic 'errors' - pseudogenes and retroposons - shared between different species (humans, gorillas, chimps), and that they somehow disprove evolution and prove ID?
And how do you then use ID as proof of a supreme being?

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David unfamous
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Message 20 of 367 (30287)
01-27-2003 5:06 AM
Reply to: Message 19 by peter borger
01-26-2003 8:44 PM


Two things Peter, I can't find any references to the GUToB on the internet other than those made by your good self within this forum — am I on a wild goose chase?
And I'd still like you or Sonnike to explain why ID is evidence for a supreme being.

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David unfamous
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Message 49 of 367 (30723)
01-30-2003 12:40 PM
Reply to: Message 47 by DanskerMan
01-30-2003 9:54 AM


If I tried to convince you or anyone else that the Eiffel tower was not designed and that it came together by time, chance and natural selection...I would be laughed off the face of this earth
Using the same logic:
If I tried to convince the world iron is a liquid, I would be laughed of the face of the earth. Therefore, water must be a solid.
Yet the dogma of anti-God evolutionary thinking is literally FORCED upon the un-questioning public.
Evolution is a theory based on that which we observe, not an attempt to offend the religious. Why you think any form of science is 'forced' upon the unquestioning public I don't know. Especially as religious study is compulsary in just about every school on the planet, yet science is just brushed upon.

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David unfamous
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Message 101 of 367 (31540)
02-06-2003 12:03 PM
Reply to: Message 93 by John
02-05-2003 6:55 PM


Why does he look like John Cleese?
That's not John Cleese. Note the Flux Capacitor in the background?

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