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Author Topic:   Creationists as Hyperevolutionists?
MarkAustin
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Message 87 of 98 (79542)
01-20-2004 8:39 AM
Reply to: Message 41 by John Paul
12-16-2003 3:50 PM


Endosymbosis
John Paul
quote:
Just-so stories and assertions are not to be confused with evidence- scietific or otherwise. I have heard & read the stories. I know about endosymbiosis (Lynn Margulis).
There isn't any evidence of a bi-cellular organism.
Wrong. Look here.
quote:
Professor Kwang Jeon's Supporting Discovery
Seem more like a creative story than a plausible theory? Let's examine the case of Professor Kwang Jeon of the University of Tennessee. In 1987, Professor Jeon noticed that his collectioin of amoeba were developing a large number of dots. These large number of dots turned out to be bacteria, which were quickly killing off Jeon's collection. Jeon noted the least sick ones and began keeping records of their progress. The least sick ones apparently were more resistant to the bacteiar since they survived and returned to their normal modes. However, some 40,000 of the invading bacteria were still present within each of the surviving amoebas! Through transplating experimentation, Jeon found that the nucleus of the amoebas could not live without the once pathogenic bacteria. Jeon's accidental discovery proves that it is possible for an organism to become dependent on and a functional part of invading organisms. Rather than eliminating competitors, evolution eliminated competition itself on the basis of symboitic relationships.
Bold emphasis mine.
Experimental proof of the possibility of the Margulis theory. Single cell prokaryotic cels can form symbotic colonies as per theory.
Game, set and match.
Woops - hit the submit button too soon.
Edited again to correct poor grammar and spelling.
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MarkAustin
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Message 88 of 98 (79547)
01-20-2004 9:49 AM


Portugese man of War
Another one to add to the slime mould as an intermediate between uni and multi cellular life.
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The Bluebottle or Portuguese Man-of-War is not a single animal but a colony of four kinds of highly modified individuals (polyps). The polyps are dependent on one another for survival.
From an Australian Museum Fact Sheet
A colony organism, made up of four specialised individuals, still partially capable of independent survival.
What kind does this fall into?

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