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Chiroptera
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Message 87 of 147 (92807)
03-16-2004 4:32 PM
Reply to: Message 85 by Servent of the Cross
03-16-2004 4:21 PM


Re: Yo
Yes, indeed. Show that all methods of radiometric dating give inconsistent results. Show that there is absolutely no correclation between radiometric dates and relative order of strata. Show that there is no correlation between either of these and fossil species.
Show that there is no order in which we find fossil species in the strata.
Show that there is not a single transitional fossil that links a modern species with an ancient ancestor.
Show that there are "transitional" fossils that link whales to fish, bats to birds, or show that humans evolved from ancient wolves, completely contradicting the Linnaean classification system.
Show that molecular biology gives a completely different family tree than suggested by paleontology or by the Linnaean classification system.
Show that all the stars and galaxies that we see, even with the most powerful telescopes, are less than 10,000 light years away.
These are just the things that immediately pop into my head. I'm sure that people can think up lots and lots of ways to prove that creationism is true.

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Chiroptera
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Message 92 of 147 (92914)
03-17-2004 11:41 AM
Reply to: Message 89 by Servent of the Cross
03-16-2004 10:55 PM


oh dear!
Hello, Servent.
What you describe is not what anyone believes. There are several threads already going on about Big Bang.
The point is that there is a multitude of independent and consistent evidence that the earth is over 4 billion years old, and that all known species (including extinct ones) evolved from a much smaller number of older species. What you like to discuss this evidence? As a former creationist myself, I can assure you that the evidence is quite overwhelming. In fact, I have tried to present just one small piece of the available evidence.
Meanwhile there is no, absolutely no, evidence that the earth is less than 10,000 years old, or that there was a global flood in historic times.
I (and presumably everyone else here) would love to discuss the evidence with you. Please join the conversation.

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Chiroptera
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Message 98 of 147 (93014)
03-17-2004 7:29 PM
Reply to: Message 97 by Servent of the Cross
03-17-2004 7:18 PM


I'll take the first one!
quote:
Like if earth was just a few feet closer to the sun we would get to hott and not be able to servive and if we were any further we would be to cold....
This is false.
The distance between the earth and sun varies by more that a few feet.
In January, the earth is at perihelion - the closest to the sun. It is only 91.4 million miles from the sun. In July it is an entire 94.4 million miles from the sun. So, over the course of a year the distance from the earth and the sun changes by 3 million miles. That is almost 16 billion feet - more than a few, wouldn't you say?

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Chiroptera
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Message 101 of 147 (93024)
03-17-2004 8:38 PM
Reply to: Message 99 by Servent of the Cross
03-17-2004 7:37 PM


Now I have a question.
Hi, Servent.
I hope that Mark24 answered your questions to your satisfaction.
I have a question for you. If the earth is only about 6000 years old, and if each "kind" was specially created, why does the fossil record seem to show that present species evolved from older species?

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Chiroptera
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Message 126 of 147 (108264)
05-14-2004 6:45 PM
Reply to: Message 123 by Servent of the Cross
05-14-2004 5:30 PM


Re: Welcome back
quote:
It takes so much more time and efort to beleive in Evolution Then to beleive a Higher Being (Being God) Created the Universe
I hate to have to repeat my own, anecdotal story, but I used to be a creationist until it took too much faith to continue to believe in the literal Genesis creation story.

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