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wj Inactive Member |
quote: Fred, your ignorance of Australia and its biology appears to be encyclopaedic and your logic totally illogical. How does creationism explain the presence of fossil monotremes only in the southern continents which were contiguous as Gondwanaland? Why no fossil monotremes in the northern continents, not even near Mt Ararat? As Fred rightly points out placental mammals have been quite successful in colonising Australia as feral pests - rabbits, foxes, camels, horses, water buffalos, wild pigs etc. Why are all of these placentals successfully established now but could not be established previously, after a mythical world flood? And why no marsupial fossils in northern continents? Were the marsupials supernaturally guided directly to Australia without leaving evidence of their passage and no strays being attracted to suitable environments in other continents? So why are there fossil marsupials in Australia but not significant numbers of placental mammals? Weren't the fossils formed from organisms killed in the flood? So you must be saying that Australia was populated almost exclusively by monotremes and marsupials before and after the flood. Is this starting to sound incredible? Large flightless birds present more problems for your fantasy. Emu and cassowaries in Australasia, ostriches in Africa, rhea in South America, Moa in New Zealand. Why is each restricted to an single geographical area? If an emu can walk from Mt Ararat to Australia why not to South America or even New Zealand? Are all of the modern large flightless birds of the same biblical kind and derived from a single Noachian pair? any more tall stories?
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wj Inactive Member |
Fred, I'm afraid you will have to expand on the details of your flood and Australian fauna fairytale before I can comment on what you seem to consider to be supporting evidence.
What was in Australia before the flood? What was in Australia after the flood? When did Australia become geographically isolated from other continents? Was it ever connected to other continents in your creationist past and, if so, which continents and when? What conventional strata are repersented by the noachian flood deposits? Are pre- and post-flood fauna completely different from eachother? quote: Fred, don't be misled by such common names as marsupial tiger, marsupial wolf, marsupial mouse etc. They may have some superficial similarities to placental counterparts but they are vastly different in their details. "Convergence" explains certain superficial similarities resulting from similar adaptations to similar environmental pressures. However it doesn't imply close relatedness. Any marsupial is more closely related to any other marsupial than to any "convergent" placental counterpart. You're not actually suggesting that a placental mouse evolved into a marsupial mouse or visa versa, are you? Notice that the marsupial "lion" mentioned in one of your links had "a spectacular pair of piercing lower incisors" and "the limbs are adapted for climbing and grasping rather than for running." I note that you also haven't provided your faithtale explanation for the various large flightless birds. quote: Logically, if marsupial fossils older than 2 million years are rare then the majority of marsupial fossils will fall within the last 2 million years. Is this supposed to be some sort of revelation? I suppose you have some statistics on age of fossils cf. number of fossils to support your assertion of rareness? Does the same relationship apply for placental fossils?
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wj Inactive Member |
Fred, the weekend seems to be well and truly over.
Are you going to address the outstanding matters on this thread?
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wj Inactive Member |
^ bump ^
Well, we're into a new week. Any responses Fred?
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wj Inactive Member |
^ bump ^
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wj Inactive Member |
Fred, now that you have agian become active on this board, are you going to address the outstanding issues on this thread?
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wj Inactive Member |
Fred, is your weekend over now? Are you going to respond to my questions in message #58? Are you going to address all the other outstanding issues in this thread? I note that Randy is back so we're all here awaiting your substantive responses.
Otherwise one could get the impression that your are making up a fairytale which has no supporting evidence, or that you are disingenuous and will not explain and defend your assertions in a neutral forum (ie. one which you do not moderate, either openly or in disguise). O2U Fred
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wj Inactive Member |
Well Fred, how about it? Are you going to respond to the outstanding issues in this thread. I suspect that you might be feeling very uncomfortable about the corner you have backed yourself into when making your assertions from a position of ignorance about Australian flora and fauna but you really can't back out without completely losing face.
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wj Inactive Member |
Fred, you're not avoiding this thread, are you? There are numerous questions which you have been asked and have not yet responded to, including those which I raised in message #58.
When can we expect responses?
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