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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1466 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
I THINK ANYONE WHO BELEIVES IN EVOLUTION IS AN IDIOT Welcome to my list. Do you think God wants you to go around calling people idiots? Is that what they're teaching you in church these days?
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1466 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
What I would like to know is who decides what the species evolves into? The environment selects individuals best adapted to it. These individuals leave more offspring, so that their unique adaptations eventually spread through the population.
Evolution suggests that nature would have to have some sort of thinking power in order to think of gills, and claws, and how we recycle air through trees, and how our bodies work. There's no thinking power needed - just a source of random variety in organisms; aka random mutation.
Oviously if evolution does exsist, then it has to have some kind of thought behind it as to where to go. Of course it doesn't. There just has to be a source of variation and re-inforcement of beneficial traits, and both these things exist: random mutation and natural selection. You seem to have this idea that evolution is deterministic. This is not true. Evolution is random, sort of, so if we were to rewind time and let the story of life play out on Earth again, the results would be different each time.
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1466 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
Crashfrog, you are the most patient man I know. Every mistaken poster is a chance to explain it in a new way and, just possibly, increase my own understanding of the theory, which is amateur in the extreme.
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1466 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
what i'm asking is what decides the next mutation is going to work? The environment. Selection. The laws of physics. When you flip a coin, what decides whether or not it comes up heads?
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1466 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
my response is who decided that air was a good source to live off of and how to collect it into a breathing aparateus? It's like this. Pretend you're running a race with a gun at the finish line. When you beat the other guy you grab the gun and shoot him. That way everybody knows who won. Who decided who won? Nobody. It wasn't a "decision" process. You were faster, so now he's dead. If oxygen is a better metabolic agent than other chemicals, it's because the laws of physics are the way that they are.
there is a serious lack of people supporting creation in this forum As well as everywhere. The reason is because creation is unsupportable. It's contradicted by evidence.
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1466 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
None of You are Gonna shake me this time Just curious, but did anybody shake you last time? Somebody's been to Creationist Camp or something, I suspect. Your fervor is noted but not very convincing. Why not try evidence and a well-reasoned argument?
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1466 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
Why are we picking on the spelling? I thought we only picked on the spelling of messages that themselves were corrections to someone else's spelling.
Is this what we're reduced to? Picking on some poor kid's spelling? I don't understand how this fits the guidelines, or why Lam's post was POTM-worthy, for that matter. Can someone explain, maybe? Did I miss something?
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1466 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
Should Servant be allowed that kind of behaviour? No, of course not. But don't Lam and Percy's posts not only draw attention to that behavior, but legitimize it by giving the impression that the content and style would be fine if only he fixed a few typos? Maybe it seems that way to me, which is why I thought Lam's post was an odd choice for POTM. No offense, Lam. Love your posts. (Fear your avatars. )
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1466 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
As I stated before, I believe that my post where I nitpicked servent's spelling and grammar errors was total crap. Yeah, it was mostly Ned's enthusiasm and Percy's following suit that puzzled me, you know? I hope you don't feel picked on or something. I just thought there was some weird behavior going on from folks I thought knew better.
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1466 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
So one casts about trying different things. Gotcha. My usual technique is to call them liars to their faces. It's about as effective as I suspect your technique is likely to be.
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1466 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
Come on peeple this is not a Friking english class... Just to add to what everybody else is telling you: Yes, this is an English class. You're being judged on your ability to communicate ideas here, just like you are everywhere else you speak. The point of those English classes you hated to sit through wasn't to annoy or torture you. It was so that you don't sound like an idiot when you open your mouth or type words. Mission not accomplished, I guess. If you can't even understand the utility of writing like you're an intelligent person, what hope could you have of understanding the findings of science?
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