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JonF
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Message 6 of 80 (96724)
04-01-2004 6:45 PM
Reply to: Message 4 by Mnenth
04-01-2004 5:53 PM


Those species are separate species
Yup. So are all transitionals. All fossils are transitionals. All extant species are transitionals.
Questions: What percentage of all organisms fossilize? What are the biases that select some species for fossilization more than others? What percentage of fossils do we find?
When you know the answers to those questions, you can formulate your original question in a meaningful way. Until you compare the number of transitionals we do find the the number of transitionals that we expect to find if evolution is true, your queston is meaningless.
You might find it interesting to browse Human Evolution and learn about the literally hundreds of transitional fossils we have found in our human ancestry.

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JonF
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Message 11 of 80 (96738)
04-01-2004 7:35 PM
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04-01-2004 7:26 PM


Ehe dinosaur is the original specie, and the bird is the result. i realize that evolution continues, and that the dinosaur is a result of something else, but it was what you would call a "successfull specie"
So are all the fossils we find, and all the transitionals, and all the species extant today, and all the species that ever existed.

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JonF
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Message 16 of 80 (96752)
04-01-2004 8:12 PM
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04-01-2004 7:44 PM


If every specie that ever existed was successful, why did they even evolve?
1. "Success" is not perfection. There are always ways in which an organism can become better adapted to its environment.
2. The environment changes. What is successful today may not be so successful tomorrow. New environmental niches open up, and populations evolve to fill them. And so on.
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JonF
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Message 17 of 80 (96756)
04-01-2004 8:19 PM
Reply to: Message 12 by Mnenth
04-01-2004 7:41 PM


Let me reitterate what i have been saying, because i dont think you fully understand my question.
We understand what you are saying. The problem is that you have no understanding of evolution. Reiteraing your erors wil not make them correct.
The RATIO of fossils found should be far more half and half creatures (or partially evolved), then complete species
There is no such thing (and there never has been) as a half and half credature. There is no such thing (and there never has been) as a partially evolved species. All species are complete species. All species are transitional species. All fossils are successful complete species because that's all there is and all there ever has been.
A transitional fossil is an example of a successful complete species that has some characteristics of at least two other species. And we've got plenty of those, especially in the human lineage.

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