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Zhimbo
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Message 2 of 120 (22996)
11-17-2002 1:14 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by robinrohan
11-17-2002 12:59 PM


posting mistake...shared computer!

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Zhimbo
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Message 111 of 120 (24358)
11-26-2002 2:54 AM
Reply to: Message 109 by robinrohan
11-25-2002 5:27 PM


The pictorial image of a computer is purely epiphenomenal from the computers "point of view". Turn the monitor off. The computer cares not a whit.

I suspect it is, in principle, possible to make a monitor image of a human mental image. Not possible in reality in the forseeable future, but that's not the point.

If that is true, is there any real difference between computers "images" and mental images? If that isn't true, why isn't it true?

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No, computers don't. They produce a pictorial image. Are you suggesting that the brain produces a physical pictorial image?

I've already talked about this with Obsidian and Quetval and they agreed that the brain does not produce a pictorial image, only an electrical image. What that means is the comparison with computers does not hold.



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Zhimbo
Member (Idle past 4153 days)
Posts: 571
From: New Hampshire, USA
Joined: 07-28-2001


Message 112 of 120 (24359)
11-26-2002 2:55 AM
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11-25-2002 5:27 PM


The pictorial image of a computer is purely epiphenomenal from the computers "point of view". Turn the monitor off. The computer cares not a whit.

I suspect it is, in principle, possible to make a monitor image of a human mental image. Not possible in reality in the forseeable future, but that's not the point.

If that is true, is there any real difference between computers "images" and mental images? If that isn't true, why isn't it true?

Previous message:

quote:

No, computers don't. They produce a pictorial image. Are you suggesting that the brain produces a physical pictorial image?

I've already talked about this with Obsidian and Quetval and they agreed that the brain does not produce a pictorial image, only an electrical image. What that means is the comparison with computers does not hold.



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