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Author Topic:   Define "Kind"
Coragyps
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Message 69 of 300 (289209)
02-21-2006 2:34 PM
Reply to: Message 64 by DBlevins
02-21-2006 2:29 PM


Re: bird kinds ????
Like two mice - Mus musculus and Mus spretus - which have limited interfertility, while differing in DNA more than humans and chimps do.

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Coragyps
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Message 93 of 300 (289260)
02-21-2006 4:16 PM
Reply to: Message 88 by Faith
02-21-2006 4:00 PM


Re: bird kinds ????
The rest of the great apes and some of the monkeys have a vitamin C gene broken in the same place. Humans and great apes have urate oxidase genes broken in the same place. We (humans and the other great apes) all have a couple dozen or more genes for odor receptors broken in the same places. We all form an accessory olfactory bulb in our brains as embryos, and then resorb it, as we all have non-functional vomeronasal organs after we're born - though we start to form them as embryos.

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Coragyps
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Message 166 of 300 (290089)
02-24-2006 12:26 PM
Reply to: Message 164 by DBlevins
02-23-2006 1:31 PM


Re: For a later pursuit perhaps...?
New World Vultures have recently been reclassified from genetic studies to be in the same order as Storks
And we of the Coragyps Kind are just proud to be there!

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Coragyps
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Message 183 of 300 (290512)
02-25-2006 11:28 PM
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02-25-2006 11:15 PM


Re: False history
It was the church that preserved the writings of antiquity when they were discovered.
Really? Not the Arabs?
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Coragyps
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Message 185 of 300 (290514)
02-25-2006 11:33 PM
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02-25-2006 11:15 PM


Re: False history
and their condemnation of science was based on his pagan view of the cosmos, not on the Bible.
Really? Cardinal Bellarmine wrote, in 1615:
Second, I say that, as you know, the Council [of Trent] prohibits interpreting Scripture against the common consensus of the Holy Fathers; and if Your [Reverence] wants to read not only the Holy Fathers, but also the modern commentaries on genesis, the Psalms, Ecclesiastes, and Joshua, you will find all agreeing in the literal interpretation that the sun is in heaven and turns around the earth with great speed, and that the earth is very far from heaven and sits motionless at the center of the world. Consider now, with your sense of prudence, whether the Church can tolerate giving Scripture a meaning contrary to the Holy Fathers and to all the Greek and Latin commentators. Nor can one answer that this is not a matter of faith, since if it is not a matter of faith "as regards the topic," it is a matter of faith "as regards the speaker"; and so it would be heretical to say that Abraham did not have two children and Jacob twelve, as well as to say that Christ was not born of a virgin, because both are said by the Holy Spirit through the mouth of the prophets and the apostles.
http://www.historyguide.org/intellect/foscarini.html
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Coragyps
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Message 187 of 300 (290517)
02-26-2006 12:21 AM


I'm vewy sowwy, AN.

Coragyps
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Message 199 of 300 (290583)
02-26-2006 11:14 AM
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02-26-2006 10:59 AM


Re: Further clarification
The kind is a reality because the Bible says it is.
We've known this since the start of this thread, gang. Why are we still here?

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