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Author Topic:   Allright, forget the fossils
sidelined
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Message 16 of 23 (277688)
01-10-2006 3:38 AM
Reply to: Message 15 by paleolutheran
01-10-2006 3:07 AM


Re: Determining Tree(s) Content
paleolutheran
Evolution is not denied by creationists who realize some form of super evolution had to occur with the ark pairs to give us the diversity of organisms we see today. In order for ToE to be correct there needs to be ONE tree because the genetic evidence for it is the same genetic mechanisms throughout all life-forms
Since there are a minimum of 1.5 million spesies and perhaps as many as 8 million the ark story falls apart in so many ways just on the basis of food requirements that no one canseriously contemplate the story to be literal.
The flood alone produces a 100 % humid enviroment for the 40 days it is raining. Since most animals must sweat in order to cool this situation is patently lethal to those animals including noah and his family.
Of course there is the conflict concerning that noah could not possibly guarantee that every animal on the planet was there only in groups of two or seven since in order to digest food many animals including humans depend upon vast quantites of bacteria in their digestive systems.
As if this were not enough Genesis 7:23 delivers a fatal blow as we can see by reading here
And every living substance was destroyed which was upon the face of the ground, both man, and cattle, and the creeping things, and the fowl of the heaven; and they were destroyed from the earth
This means that all soil bacteria and plants are obliterated.Also since the ocean salt will have been evenly distributed across the planet the land available would be incapable of supporting many species of plants. Worms that are so vital to the production of good soil is now reduced to 2 members to tend to the entire planet.
The energy release involved in the flood would have raised temperatures beyond the capabilty of animals to survive.Then there is the problem involved with the waters being higher than the highest mountains which places the ark at the range of 30,000 feet in elevation at which point the ultraviolet exposure to light would have been unpleasant at best and deadly at worst.
This is a small sampling of the absurdity of the ark story as a literal tale.

But I realize now that these people were not in science; they didn’t understand it. They didn’t understand technology; they didn’t understand their time.

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sidelined
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Message 20 of 23 (278185)
01-11-2006 2:34 PM
Reply to: Message 19 by paleolutheran
01-10-2006 1:29 PM


Paleolutheran
I owe you an apology and would have responded sooner however I was in emergency surgery having my foot removed from my mouth. I shall forthwith have myself flogged and beaten to atone for my crime.
Sorry for the interuption of your post.
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To Paleolutheran - If you are replying to a specific message, it is best to use the reply button at the bottom of that message. Then the little link notes (such as - This message is a reply to: Message 19 by paleolutheran) are automaticly created, and the person you are replying to can get an e-mail notification of your reply}
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