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Author Topic:   Humans of the future?
kingzfan2000
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Message 78 of 82 (182557)
02-02-2005 12:10 PM
Reply to: Message 29 by Steen
07-12-2004 7:25 PM


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But if we are "well-designed," why do we all get so sick,
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Aren't you forgetting the sicknesses you alone have had? And the sicknesses that your body alone has fended off?
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Eh? Aren't you forgetting to actually answer the question? Could it be because you really don't have a good answer? let me ask you again. Is human illness a sign of a "good" design, or is God incompetent when looking at I.D> as a valid hypothesis?
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I'd sure like to see my motorbike make itself a new tyre when it goes flat.
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Funny how your tricycle is NOT a biological organism. Amazing how creationists always try for that nonsense when they are cornered. I see your red herring of diversion for what it truly is, an inability to justify human illness if we supposedly are designed by God as the ultimate biological entity.
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Also; we have to consider that we are a bit like a race-car.
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No, we are not, your inane comparison nonewithstanding.
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If God foresaw our downfall, then wouldn't he also foresee that we would only need our present natural bodies, for a "race-period".
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Given that medical science has doubled our lifespan, either God was wrong in the original "design," or God has decided that we need a longer race. Is God a poor designer, or is God just lousy at predicting what race/lifespan humans are set to complete? Your arguments are painting God as an INEPT FOOL! Is that truly your goal?
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I mean, I'd love to fill my bike with fuel and have it run for more than half a century, with it fending off problems for itself.
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And no doubt, you would love for your bike to have babies, sing lullabies and whatnot. Any particular reason why you push the dishonest comparison with an inanimate object here?
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Now surely the heart's efficient aswell? How long does it pump without a service? My own one's pumped for a while.
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Given the rampant heart disease in modern society and the more rampant need for blood pressure medications, the weakness and poor design of the heart should be noted. How does that fit in your argument?
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I dont think heart disease and high blood pressure are exactly due to faulty design. I dont think McDonalds, Wendys, KFC, and foods drowned in fat and fried was exactly what God in mind when the heart was designed. Thats like taking a 5 series rallying and when it breaks down, saying that BMWs are badly designed and built. If you dont take care of your body or put it through things it wasnt meant to, what do you expect but for it to break down. People stuff junk inside their bodies all day, and then wonder why their arteries get clogged. But dont worry. Soon we will be able to live of nachos, hotdogs, fried chicken, and pizza, and drink soda, HiC, and beer and it will be the same as eating fruits and vegetables and drinking nothing but water. In fact, the process has already started.
Our bodies are well built to accomodate most inconveniences. Broken bones, lacerations, burns (to an extent), bruises, many forms of diseases, and infections can all heal on their own accord. If most people took care of their bodies the way they were supposed to, they wouldnt catch colds. They dont so they do. There are many completely natural things that both prevent and treat many ailments. I admit nobody wants to eat oranges, apples, brocolli, spinach, and beans for the rest of their lives. But we cant turn around and say that because we want to put things in our body that werent meant to be ingested, that our bodies our badly designed. You want to race you honda civic 90 mph everywhere you go, and never change the oil, dont complain when it breaks down in a year.
Most, or should I say many, forms of cancer are induced through man made causes. Yes some are caused by mutations or other means that we have no control over, but many are caused by either things we put in our bodies, or man made items or structures that we expose ourselves to. Yes we are living longer due to advances in medicine and technology, and yes there has been bacteria, virus, and disease well before our time. Why is there bacteria and disease on earth? I dont know. Starting from the very formation of the earth when we had a clean slate, can evolutionist provide a concrete reason why bacteria and germs appeared? And by concrete I dont mean a "well what probably happened" story. If they can, then you have your answer why bacteria and disease is here.
The moral of my story is, if we put only into our bodies what was truly intended, the body wouldnt seem so poorly designed. We dont want to do this. I know these things and I dont do them. But when I eat Frosted Flakes for breakfast, Mcdonalds for lunch, and pizza for dinner, I dont complain that my body is poorly designed when something goes wrong. There is a natural food to benefit most of the organs of our bodies. You wont find many vegetarians having triple bypass surgeries, but regardless we will all die someday. Not because of bad engineering, but because the very laws of nature say we must. What sense does it make to create all things impervious to death and disease and then give all things the ability to indisciminately reproduce? I dont think life for anybody would be to fun if every biological organism from the beginning of time was still alive. That would be quite an interesting predicament. Therefore death is a necessity to support life. For this reason I ask, from where comes the 2nd law of thermodynamics? Of its own accord, or as a necessity to support life?
This message has been edited by kingzfan2000, 02-02-2005 15:53 AM
This message has been edited by kingzfan2000, 02-02-2005 15:54 AM

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