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Chiroptera
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Message 188 of 302 (319569)
06-09-2006 2:08 PM
Reply to: Message 169 by Percy
06-09-2006 5:53 AM


quote:
What you're describing is the way Dembski and Gitt define information.... They confuse information with knowledge and meaning.
And aren't they intelligent and educated enough to realize this? Especially after it has been pointed out to them?

"We must respect the other fellow's religion, but only in the same sense and to the extent that we respect his theory that his wife is beautiful and his children smart."
-- H. L. Mencken (quoted on Panda's Thumb)

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Chiroptera
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Message 204 of 302 (319990)
06-10-2006 3:15 PM
Reply to: Message 203 by NosyNed
06-10-2006 2:48 PM


Re: Separate paths
quote:
It would be in the Cambrian I believe.
Before that, even. If I recall correctly, the molecular evidence suggests that at least some of the major phyla diverged about half a billion years before the Cambrian.

"We must respect the other fellow's religion, but only in the same sense and to the extent that we respect his theory that his wife is beautiful and his children smart."
-- H. L. Mencken (quoted on Panda's Thumb)

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Chiroptera
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Message 213 of 302 (320114)
06-10-2006 6:49 PM
Reply to: Message 211 by RAZD
06-10-2006 6:38 PM


Re: The essay -- the problems start at the very beginning.
quote:
Wrong again. We are talking about a science not a "popular belief" -- science based on factual evidence.
Another error (although unrelated to your point -- sorry for the digression) is that evolution -- common descent, actually -- says that there is a single common ancestor for all life. Actually, the theory of evolution merely asserts that the species in a given major taxon has a common ancestor -- but all known life may have had several ancestors.
The idea that there is only a single common ancestory is based on empirical observation, but is not necessary to the theory of evolution.

"We must respect the other fellow's religion, but only in the same sense and to the extent that we respect his theory that his wife is beautiful and his children smart."
-- H. L. Mencken (quoted on Panda's Thumb)

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Chiroptera
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Message 214 of 302 (320115)
06-10-2006 6:50 PM
Reply to: Message 212 by Rob
06-10-2006 6:45 PM


Re: on pairs and tells
quote:
I disagree... We're devolving!
I don't know about you, but I made a lot of progess since the days I was a simple single cell travelling down my mama's Fallopian tube.

"We must respect the other fellow's religion, but only in the same sense and to the extent that we respect his theory that his wife is beautiful and his children smart."
-- H. L. Mencken (quoted on Panda's Thumb)

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Chiroptera
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Message 219 of 302 (320158)
06-10-2006 7:32 PM
Reply to: Message 218 by Someone who cares
06-10-2006 7:28 PM


Re: "Macro"evolution still undefined.
quote:
Like in the lowest layer, there are fully developed sponges, trilobites, jellyfish, worms, and other organisms, and this is the bottom of the geologic column!
Actually, it's not. The fossil record extends farther into the past into the Precambrian. And molecular biology shows evidence that the origins of the major phyla may extend even farther into the past.

"We must respect the other fellow's religion, but only in the same sense and to the extent that we respect his theory that his wife is beautiful and his children smart."
-- H. L. Mencken (quoted on Panda's Thumb)

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