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Author Topic:   Why Darwinism is wrong
jar
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Message 40 of 305 (203804)
04-29-2005 7:33 PM
Reply to: Message 38 by JonF
04-29-2005 5:03 PM


Re: Heyyy.
Well, selection is random in the sense that the actual filter varies from moment to moment. The filter can be any of a number of things, conditions and events, many of which are random in nature.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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jar
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Message 137 of 305 (206187)
05-08-2005 5:09 PM
Reply to: Message 135 by mick
05-08-2005 4:56 PM


Re: talking about mutation before
Mick
Let's discuss neighbors and towns.
Assume for a moment that we establish colonies on other planets. New towns. Also consider that the cost of transportation is such that regular communication between towns is limited (for example, it might be limited by time dilation if the colonies are far enough apart)
Would humans under such condition speciate? Would we find that 100-1000 generations down the road the folk living around star A are a different species than those around star B?

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jar
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Message 139 of 305 (206198)
05-08-2005 5:34 PM
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05-08-2005 5:32 PM


Re: talking about mutation before
That is with unlimited travel. If, as I specified in my message, travel was limited between towns (worlds), what would the effect be?

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jar
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Message 141 of 305 (206202)
05-08-2005 5:51 PM
Reply to: Message 140 by mick
05-08-2005 5:41 PM


Re: talking about mutation before
Very good. Just wanted to make sure.
One of the arguments I see around here often resolves to "Why don't we see humans evolving?"
Two questions I've always had were
  • how often should we expect to see something like that happen?
  • would we recognize an evolved human if there was one?

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