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Author Topic:   What convinced you of Evolution?
Dr Jack
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Message 17 of 157 (70522)
12-02-2003 5:11 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by DaVx0r
12-01-2003 8:17 PM


In the unlikely event that this gets back on topic, I'll ignore your ignorant assersion that evolution is a religion and answer the question asked:
Were you just brought up with the theory of evolution? Does it just make sense to you? Were you forced into it because you refused to believe in a deity? Or are you just one of those, "Scientists thought of it...It must be true" kind of people?
My parents are both PhDs in Biology, my dad was a Christian, my mum is now an ordained priest in the CoE. My upbringing was correspondingly rich in science. I remember my dad showing us how to calculate the circumfrence of the earth when we lived in Nigeria, and I remember being woken up at three in the morning to look at Haley's comet through a telescope my dad had borrowed. I also loved wildlife programs, so it's no surprise that I accepted evolutionary theory from as soon as I was old enough to know anything about it.
You'll note also that I was a christian all this time. There is no conflict between rational christianity and evolution.
When I started coming into contact with the crazy fundementalist wing of Christianity I was fortunate enough to have my dad there to point how ignorant, stupid and downright lying all their creationist arguments were. He used to get tracts from the Creation Science Movement and I'd amuse myself by reading them over my Shreddies in the morning. Even with high school level science I could easily spot the gaping flaws in their reasoning.
Coming into contact with the lunacy, self-delusion and fantacism of the fundementalists also caused me to examine my own faith, and I'm pleased to say I was able to leave behind the trappings of christianity and become an atheist.
Since then I've read several creationist books, not one has had a single shred of scientific evidence in them. I've also read numerous books on evolution, and many more on general biology. And I can say for certain you're suggestion that there is no evidence for evolution is singularly false.
From a personal asthetic point of view, I cannot see how such a powerful, elegant, obvious and successful theory could be wrong.

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Dr Jack
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Message 44 of 157 (70741)
12-03-2003 10:49 AM
Reply to: Message 43 by truthlover
12-03-2003 10:30 AM


Welcome back, Truthlover! Glad to see you posting again.

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Dr Jack
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Message 50 of 157 (70945)
12-04-2003 8:20 AM
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12-03-2003 8:16 PM


Re: what convinced me of evolution?
That's it? That's your response to all that everyone has said?

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Dr Jack
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Message 72 of 157 (71181)
12-05-2003 10:28 AM
Reply to: Message 70 by Thronacx
12-05-2003 9:39 AM


Certainly more than one set of conclusions can match the data. Trouble is, in the evolution/creation debate, only evolution matchs the data; wheras creation is directly contradicted by it.
Oh, and generalisation is not a logical fallacy. It is merely a generalisation; and correspondingly only holds for the individual with statistical significance.

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Dr Jack
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Message 154 of 157 (72477)
12-12-2003 6:19 AM
Reply to: Message 146 by Brian
12-09-2003 9:01 AM


Re: Evolution
[qs]As for being an ordained minister, that explains a lot.[qs/]
I ask you to withdraw this ignorant slight.

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