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Theodoric
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Message 103 of 458 (510505)
05-31-2009 9:37 PM
Reply to: Message 95 by slevesque
05-31-2009 3:55 AM


slevesque writes:

where marrying a cousin was common but was not known as a source of child defects. If it is now seen as a problem, it is because mutations have become more widespread in the population.


Ok do you have any evidence for the things you say. Cousin/cousin is not huge cause of birth defects.

Here is some real science on the issue

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Contrary to widely held beliefs and longstanding taboos in America, first cousins can safely have children together, without a great risk of birth defects or genetic disease, scientists are reporting today. They say there is no biological reason to discourage cousins from marrying[

Here is the original.

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There is a great deal of stigma associated with cousin unions in the United States and Canada that has little biological basis.


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Theodoric
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Message 130 of 458 (519116)
08-11-2009 12:32 PM
Reply to: Message 129 by Wounded King
08-11-2009 12:10 PM


Codon!!!!!! not Condom?
No wonder I am confused. I was wondering what his post had to do with contraception.

Edited by Theodoric, : spell


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Message 132 of 458 (519118)
08-11-2009 12:53 PM
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08-11-2009 12:43 PM


Re: Codon!!!!!! not Condom?
really refute many of my main arguments in others?

Many times. As a matter of fact, you have pulled out of a few threads when things were not going your way.

I think in one you stated something to the affect that we will have to "agree to disagree", when in fact your arguments were wrong.

I am not sure if there have been any arguments you have made that have not been refuted.

Go back through the threads. I know I am looking for a response on at least a couple.


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Message 184 of 458 (520876)
08-24-2009 4:53 PM
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08-24-2009 4:33 PM


Re: What is information?
So you are saying that the leaders of the ID movement are wrong about what ID is ? That's a pretty odd perspective. They seem happy to include YEC (especially the YECs among them).

This is a very important point that I do not think a lot of people actually grasp. We have many IDers come to this forum and they vociferously deny that ID has anything to do with religion or creationism. How can this be if the leading advocates and the creators of ID clearly are very comfortable with the idea that it has religious roots. They are duping the people on the ground with one argument but when pressed in court and in the media they do not deny at all that it is a religious idea.

I have yet to hear of a prominent IDer disavow the creationists. Have any? Have any IDers presented actual scientific research? It is kind of hard to objectively study origins of species when you start with a position that the bible guides everything you do and believe.

If ID is not creationism in sheep's clothing, why have all the creationists flocked to it?


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