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Muhd
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Message 1 of 171 (97783)
04-05-2004 1:16 AM


Mutation is often stated as the way in which new traits enter into a population, which in turn is made dominant through natural selection (NS). Many, if not most, evolutionists believe that this is the way in which evolution operates.

However I would challenge by saying that no beneficial mutation has ever been found. And even if there was some beneficial mutation, in order for NS to work it would have to be a mutation that benefitted the survival or reproduction of the organism.
If you have an example of a beneficial mutation, please post, cause I really don't think there are any (one of many reason I don't belive in evolution).

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Muhd
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Message 3 of 171 (97788)
04-05-2004 1:27 AM
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04-05-2004 1:21 AM


Re: What!?!
That is not a mutation. That is a trait that already existed in the population. Nothing new was introduced. The fact that that trait became dominant is an example of adaptation through natural selection.

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Muhd
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Message 5 of 171 (97792)
04-05-2004 1:33 AM


You're still not explaining how any new genes/traits came into existance.

  
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Message 7 of 171 (97795)
04-05-2004 1:51 AM
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04-05-2004 1:36 AM


Good, someone providing some valid examples.
Thanks for the link, that's very informative.
But like the article says, those are an example of losing traits and information, not gaining.

Also, I really don't see the advantage of being blind. Granted, seeing in dark places isn't an advantage either, the point is that the fish doesn't gain an advantage. In the case of the beetle, he loses wings that he already had, he doesn't gain anything productive. This is an example of deterioration, not evolution.


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