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Peter
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Message 3 of 125 (17063)
09-10-2002 6:21 AM


What about hair on humans.
It serves no function, if it is absent it makes no difference
to survivability (and if it did stone-age man would
not have required hides).
Bald people suffer no more or less than those with hair (apart
from some socio-centric ridicule).
Chin hair on men is particularly useless, otherwise those of us who
shave would suffer in some way.

  
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Message 5 of 125 (17065)
09-10-2002 7:34 AM
Reply to: Message 4 by Mammuthus
09-10-2002 7:32 AM


quote:
Originally posted by Mammuthus:
To what great use have you been putting your nipples to recently
To be fair nipples do have a function for females, and I have seen
documentaries where men use theirs as dummies (I think it was
in the phillipines).

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Peter
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Message 8 of 125 (17073)
09-10-2002 8:10 AM
Reply to: Message 7 by nos482
09-10-2002 8:06 AM


quote:
Originally posted by nos482:
quote:
Originally posted by Mammuthus:
To what great use have you been putting your nipples to recently
The reason why men have nipples is because the natural form of life is female, not male. If you look at the 23rd chromosome pair in men you will see that the Y is actually a broken X. We have many other "female" features as well. In fact during the early stages of a pregnancy we're all female as well. So, the bible account if it were to be accurate would be Eve then Adam.
At the time this was written it was believed that all a woman did was carry a man's "seed" for him. That she didn't have any genetic say in "his" offspring.

I thought most ancient cultures were matriarchal.

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Peter
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Message 17 of 125 (17140)
09-11-2002 2:57 AM
Reply to: Message 16 by John
09-11-2002 1:39 AM


Yeah, but what about hair on humans ... now there's a vestigial
trait that speaks of a common ancestry with them other
hairy critters .... like all mammals.

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Peter
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Message 59 of 125 (17648)
09-18-2002 3:28 AM
Reply to: Message 19 by Randy
09-11-2002 9:11 AM


But doesn't that suggest that the hair itself is
vestigial (in the context of this thread)?
It is left-over because the follicle has a useful function.

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Peter
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Message 60 of 125 (17652)
09-18-2002 4:03 AM
Reply to: Message 48 by nator
09-13-2002 10:37 AM


quote:
Originally posted by schrafinator:

BTW, I do of course know that men can be victims of rape. It should also be noted that the vast, vast majority of rape victims are female.

Unfortunately this is unknowable ... the majority of reported
rapes are perpetrated against women, that does not mean that
the numbers are not much higher for male rape.
Many years ago rapes would go unreported for social and psychological
reasons (stigma, 'it's my fault', etc.), and this is most likely
the current status of male rape.
As with domestic violence against men, the current view seems to
be 'that doesn't happen much though', which was exactly the
view taken towards these crimes a generation ago in relation to
women.

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Peter
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Message 63 of 125 (17761)
09-19-2002 5:52 AM


It's all very interesting, but is it vestigial?

  
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