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redstang281 Inactive Member |
Evolutionists, what evolved first, sex or the sex drive?
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toff Inactive Member |
quote: Sex. So much for THAT thread.
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doctrbill Member (Idle past 2792 days) Posts: 1174 From: Eugene, Oregon, USA Joined: |
quote: Creationists - According to Genesis chapter one, Which was created first, male or female? ------------------db
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TrueCreation Inactive Member |
"Creationists - According to Genesis chapter one, Which was created first, male or female?"
--I dunno, that one's a toughy! ------------------
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doctrbill Member (Idle past 2792 days) Posts: 1174 From: Eugene, Oregon, USA Joined: |
quote: quote: That's it? That's your response? ------------------db
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doctrbill Member (Idle past 2792 days) Posts: 1174 From: Eugene, Oregon, USA Joined: |
quote: Creationists - Why do males have nipples? ------------------If God wanted nudists, We'd be born naked.
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KingPenguin Member (Idle past 7911 days) Posts: 286 From: Freeland, Mi USA Joined: |
[QUOTE]Originally posted by doctrbill:
[b] [QUOTE]redstang281: Creationists - Why do males have nipples? [/B][/QUOTE] can anyone explain that? i was wondering as well. theres like no reason for them. it would seem that God tried to make men and women as alike as he could get them. ------------------"Overspecialize and you breed in weakness" -"Major" Motoko Kusanagi [This message has been edited by KingPenguin, 02-16-2002]
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mark24 Member (Idle past 5223 days) Posts: 3857 From: UK Joined: |
quote: God gave men nipples to give us something to do with the other hand Seriously, early developement of foetus' are anatomically identical, theres no testes, ovaries, penis, or vagina. There are however nipples. These "features" (only a man could call them features) remain as sexual developement continues, with sexual organs then becoming evident. Females haxe two X chromosomes (XX) whilst males are XY. The Y chromosome doesn't do much other than push the development of structures in other directions. If you like, the nipples are female, & are on the Y chromosome, WHICH MALES ALSO POSSESS, but the true sex XX XY differences are not expressed until after the nipples are formed. Mark ------------------Occam's razor is not for shaving with.
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TrueCreation Inactive Member |
"Why do Males have nipples?"
--Nipples for both male and females in humans are a sexual stimulant, did God not create sex so it would be pleasurable? Also this of AiG: AiG - http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/feedback/negative10-23-2000.asp quote: ------------------
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TrueCreation Inactive Member |
"Seriously, early developement of foetus' are anatomically identical, theres no testes, ovaries, penis, or vagina. There are however nipples. These "features" (only a man could call them features) remain as sexual developement continues, with sexual organs then becoming evident. Females haxe two X chromosomes (XX) whilst males are XY. The Y chromosome doesn't do much other than push the development of structures in other directions. If you like, the nipples are female, & are on the Y chromosome, WHICH MALES ALSO POSSESS, but the true sex XX XY differences are not expressed until after the nipples are formed."
--Thanx, I was going to include something on this, but my first question was going to be where is the information condensed(is it located in XY chromosomes) before the human fetus grows or something along that line. ------------------
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mark24 Member (Idle past 5223 days) Posts: 3857 From: UK Joined: |
quote: Good question, the very thought occurred to me. My information differs from AiGs, there is no sexual anatomical difference between males & females for 10-15 weeks after conception.
http://www.sciencenet.org.uk/database/Biology/Original/b00013d.html"Both boys and girls appear to be anatomically identical for the first 10-15 weeks after conception. By that time the tissue that eventually forms the nipples is already formed. Later, boys and girls start to develop differently and continue to develop their sexual characteristics after birth. They both retain nipples but only females develop breasts at puberty. " I'm guessing now, I would say the information to form nipples is somewhere on the other 22 chromosome pairs, but the "start" gene to turn those nipples into something that can express milk is on the X chromosome. If there is no expression of the X-Y chromosomes before 10-15 weeks, that is. This begs a larger question, & as I'm in need of reading material soon, this could be the subject. How much information is actually on the X & Y chromosomes? Is it just the sex "Hox" genes that direct sexual developement, or the genes that are causal to sex characteristics as well? Perhaps (& probably) a mixture. Mark ------------------Occam's razor is not for shaving with.
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KingPenguin Member (Idle past 7911 days) Posts: 286 From: Freeland, Mi USA Joined: |
quote: lol lol. just a thought from me but women being created from men would give explanation for them having XX chromosomes and men having XY chromosomes. they were created from only one rib of man and have only one chromosome of man. makes sense? ------------------"Overspecialize and you breed in weakness" -"Major" Motoko Kusanagi
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mark24 Member (Idle past 5223 days) Posts: 3857 From: UK Joined: |
quote: Not at all. Why is there a chromosome difference on pair 23 between males & females? & how did getting females from a rib, change the Y to an X? The rib had XY, not XX. How does ripping a rib out constitute genetic manipulation, dividing chromosomes? People do have bones removed, for medical reasons, & I assure you, all chromosome pairs are intact. Mark ------------------Occam's razor is not for shaving with.
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KingPenguin Member (Idle past 7911 days) Posts: 286 From: Freeland, Mi USA Joined: |
quote: i was of course speaking metaphorically. ------------------"Overspecialize and you breed in weakness" -"Major" Motoko Kusanagi
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redstang281 Inactive Member |
quote: In nature there is a strong desire to want sex. Why would anything have sex without first having the desire for sex? Also, reproducing creates more competition for food. Why not just evolve to live forever? I could possibly see this question being answered with "that is something we are still evolving towards." If that is the answer from an evolutionist standpoint then why would the earliest life forms live shorter life spans? What sets that limitation of life to begin with?
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