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Taz
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Message 27 of 212 (418529)
08-28-2007 7:57 PM
Reply to: Message 23 by Rrhain
08-28-2007 4:31 AM


RRHAIN (Rural Rental Housing Association Indiana) writes:

But since there is a discrepancy, we are left with only one conclusion: The bacteria evolved.


Not meaning to barge in like this, but perhaps you should have explained why this experiment is so important in regard to demonstrating mutation and selective pressure. Bacteria reproduce by mitosis (fusion fission). This means that the daughter cells are exact replicas of the mother cell. And so on and so forth.

Edited by gasby, : No reason given.


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Taz
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Message 30 of 212 (418557)
08-28-2007 11:15 PM
Reply to: Message 29 by kuresu
08-28-2007 9:25 PM


kuresu the hippy writes:

Not meaning to barge in on your barging in, but don't you mean "fission" when describing mitosis?


I stand corrected :D


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Taz
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Message 47 of 212 (418679)
08-29-2007 8:15 PM
Reply to: Message 44 by Hyroglyphx
08-29-2007 5:49 PM


Re: The what?
nem writes:

I wonder that if mudskippers were extinct right now, if evolutionists would make the argument that they were really creatures in transition from water to terrestrial, or vice versa.


But there currently exist many species of animal that are transition from water to terrestrial. We don't need to look at animal that are already extinct to use as an example.


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Message 110 of 212 (419098)
08-31-2007 9:39 PM
Reply to: Message 109 by Xaruan
08-31-2007 8:25 PM


Re: definition from scientific sources
Well, I'm going to just stick my nose in and comment on something without having read the entire thread (this is against my earlier position in another thread of course... I am a natural born hypocrit).

Evolution is simply the change in allele frequency over time. What's wrong with this definition and why do we need to come up with another one?


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Message 146 of 212 (419747)
09-04-2007 3:20 PM
Reply to: Message 138 by Fosdick
09-03-2007 8:39 PM


Re: So what is this evolution thing, anyway?
Hoot writes:

Just curious, Dr A, do you know of any evolution going on without the inheriitance of genetic traits.


The evolution of memes.

Some people on this forum have claimed there are "traits" that are not heritable.

Well, some traits are truly not heritable. For example, a trait caused by a specific mutation that renders an individual completely sterile will of course not be heritable.

I have agued that a "trait" must be heritable or it is not a "trait."

According to wikipedia, "A trait may be any single feature or quantifiable measurement of an organism."

But if we want to argue definition here, I guess you can define it whatever you want.


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