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Author Topic:   Critique of Ann Coulter's The Church of Liberalism: Godless
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Message 31 of 298 (326577)
06-26-2006 6:02 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by rgb
06-24-2006 1:58 AM


someday i want to write a book
ann coulter is a raging cunt wad
subtitled: how to talk to ann coulter if you're unfortunate enough to have caught that std.
at any rate. she's an imbecile and she repeats the same bullshit lies every time she's on the air. she's full of it. disagreeing with her intentions is one thing. but i'm mostly concerned with her methods. it's like michael moore. he's full of shit, too.

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Message 62 of 298 (332170)
07-16-2006 10:45 AM
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07-15-2006 11:12 PM


Re: How Liberal's react to Ann
Sexuality and love are mutually exclusive.
you may love your kids, but i guess you don't love your wife. she's just a sex toy i suppose.

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Message 77 of 298 (332208)
07-16-2006 1:09 PM
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07-16-2006 12:33 PM


Re: How Liberal's react to Ann
no. i just think your terminology was stupid. love and sexuality are not mutually exclusive. however, one can be sexual without loving and loving without sexual. is the love necessarily different? no. is the expression different? yes. does it have to be? generally, according to our laws and customs.
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Message 78 of 298 (332209)
07-16-2006 1:12 PM
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07-16-2006 12:48 PM


Re: How Liberal's react to Ann
where are al these mysterios families who want children but can't have them? i don't see them. why don't they stand outside of abortion clinics with signs that say "give me your baby; i want it." nope. not a one. i do however see lots of families who can't have children paying millions of dollars to have four more children than they wanted because they implanted too many embryos.
maybe if every pro-life protester adopted a child instead of just standing there with a sign calling people names. maybe then i would believe you. put up or shut up.
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Message 81 of 298 (332219)
07-16-2006 2:08 PM
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07-16-2006 1:57 PM


Re: How Liberal's react to Ann
no.
mutually exclusive means they cannot coexist. read your dictionary. it's very useful.

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Message 84 of 298 (332222)
07-16-2006 2:12 PM
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07-16-2006 2:09 PM


Re: How Liberal's react to Ann
piss off.
go adopt a kid. preferably one that has a disability.
women don't kill their kids. they escape impossible situations and rid themselves of parasites.

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Message 94 of 298 (332252)
07-16-2006 5:02 PM
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07-16-2006 2:59 PM


Re: How Liberal's react to Ann
If abortion isn't murder, then someone killing a pregnant woman couldn't possibly be charged with a double-homicide. And yet, that is the case.
i'm very opposed to those laws.
Lastly, if children are, as you lovingly refer to them, "parasite," then you yourself, me, everyone on EvC, and everyone on the planet, past, present and future, are also parasites.
no. i am not a parasite. i do not depend on my mother for my livelihood.
In which case, why do some "parasites" get to live and others get to be disembodied by having their limbs ripped apart or burned to death by a high concentration of saline?
because some people want parasites.
I'm beginning to wonder if you even know what abortion actually entails.
it entails the fact that the government doesn't mandate my healthcare.
most abortions happen within the first few months and simply involve making the uterus un-sticky so the little polyp of anguish just falls off. late term abortions are rare. these horror stories you speak of are even more rare. when you know the truth, and the truth is not a butcher shop, it's not quite so scary. i had a friend have an abortion a couple years ago. standard, routine abortion. she was less than two months pregnant and she took some pills and had a standard dnc. btw, a dnc is a common medical procedure also done on non-pregnant women any time the uterus needs to be cleaned out. it happens pretty often. my mom had one after my brother was born because there was some leftover tissue and junk.
you want some abortion truth? how about asking these pro-lifers why they get abortions for their teenage daughters. how about actually bothering to think for an instant about how terrifying it might be if your health would be endangered by getting pregnant. imagine for a second that life isn't a happy little bowl of chrst-ee-ohs and that people have real problems and they take responsibility and fix those problems.
oh you don't have enough money to adopt a kid? how about the woman who doesn't have enough money to raise the disabled kid she might have? what about the family who lives in a rural community who is pregnant with a kid who will have to live full time in a first class hospital? what about the woman who just got her life straightened out, just got off the drugs, just got into a job training program and gets raped? what about the people who don't live in happy little cookie-cutter daydream suburban christian homes who actually have real life problems instead of muslim bogey men and murderous abortion doctors?
the law protects the rest of us from your daydream reality.
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Message 95 of 298 (332255)
07-16-2006 5:14 PM
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07-16-2006 4:50 PM


Re: How Liberal's react to Ann
people want their own happy, healthy, white newborns. just like lithoid said. and if they can't have their own, they'd rather go to russia to get someone else's happy, healthy, white newborn than even think about adopting the thousands of older children, children with emotional scarring, children with health problems, children with disabilities, children who have been abused, raped, drugged, starved, what have you.
imagine how full the child welfare system would be if there weren't a million abortions a year.
i know for scientific fact and from personal experience the kind of horrible, irreparable damage abandoning a child can do to him. even if you abandon that child in the kindest, gentlest way possible. if i ever get pregnant and i am entirely unable to care for my child, i would never risk the kind of hell that is the american child welfare system for it. i would decide very early, keep or abort. because no child deserves the kind of mind shattering that comes with knowing that someone didn't want you.
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Message 98 of 298 (332283)
07-16-2006 6:28 PM
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07-16-2006 5:20 PM


Re: How Liberal's react to Ann
broken kids need love more than un-broken kids.
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Message 101 of 298 (332381)
07-16-2006 10:07 PM
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Re: How Liberal's react to Ann
they taste like bread and wine and go down a little thorny.
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Message 120 of 298 (333008)
07-18-2006 5:12 PM
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07-18-2006 4:51 PM


Re: Let's try this again
i like al franken... cause he's funny. but that's as far as i go. not so big on the people who want to comment on politics but aren't actually smart enough or interested enough in being accurate to go to school and learn about how politics works. it's not like the classes are hard.

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Message 124 of 298 (333022)
07-18-2006 5:32 PM
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07-18-2006 5:26 PM


Re: Let's try this again
seriously.

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Message 135 of 298 (333072)
07-18-2006 7:45 PM
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07-18-2006 7:36 PM


Re: Let's try this again
arach specifically referenced lots of things... twice. you failed to bother to look.

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Message 140 of 298 (333079)
07-18-2006 8:16 PM
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07-18-2006 8:04 PM


Re: Let's try this again
message 59
message 100
in case that's too hard, here's a quote. you'll have to go to the site for the links.
7/8/2006
All Coulter Plagiarism Allegations in One Post (Bumped Up For Your Weekend Reading Pleasure):
Update: The biggest problem with nearly all of the denials of the plagiarism charges against Coulter is that those doing the denying (including Crown Publishing) are basing their assessments on the examples from the New York Post article alone. It's actually a great deal more than what John Barrie's software disovered. To wit:
From the Rude Pundit:
July 1, 2005 - on Coulter plagiarizing descriptions of NEA-funded art.
June 9, 2006 - on Coulter plagiarizing in the first chapter of Godless.
June 13, 2006 - on Coulter plagiarizing part of a 60 Minutes transcript.
June 14, 2006 - on Coulter plagiarizing while discussing the Willie Horton case.
June 14, 2006 - on Coulter plagiarizing on page 37 of Godless.
From Raw Story:
July 20, 2005 - Following up on NEA-funded art description plagiarism.
June 14, 2006 - on Coulter plagiarizing a list of adult stem cell treatments.
From the New York Post:
July 2, 2006 - Reporter Philip Recchia gets John Barrie to run Coulter's book through Barrie's plagiarism identifying software, confirming some of the Rude Pundit's findings and discovering more examples.
From Media Matters:
July 6, 2006 - follows up on the Post article and the Rude Pundit's work.
That's where we stand. Is it enough to get Coulter's book recalled and her column cancelled? We shall see.

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Message 144 of 298 (333127)
07-18-2006 10:20 PM
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07-18-2006 10:09 PM


Re: Let's try this again
but why hasn't anyone transcribed her literature from the alleged material that she plagiarized from?p
don't you read?
i told you i quoted from the website. THIS ONE THAT YOU SHOULD CLICK CAUSE I'M TIRED OF DOING YOUR LEGWORK FOR YOU
In other words, show her words in comparison to the words of the article(s) that she allegedly plagiarized from.
um. if you go to the website and click the links under the dates, you can read the original sources and her plagarized text.
These are baseless assertions at this point without a lick of specifics.
only because you're too lazy to go read the website WITH THE SPECIFIC ON IT.
Why couldn't anyone at least give the sources of plagiarized material so we could compare and contrast ourselves?
what is it with you people. i'm not going to spoon feed it to you like a preacher. jesus. do some work yourself before you go off staring blankly into a room and quickly dashing around with your eyes and saying "i don't see anything in here, you're crazy".
fuckballs.
I appreciate yoo providing something more than hearsay.
i didn't provide it. i simply repeated it. AGAIN. and you still have refused to look at it. go click the damn links and after you've actually bothered to do some legwork yourself, then you can tell me about how baseless these claims are.
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