Q3PSYCHO... Just to let you know you should hit the reply button at the bottom of an individual post, and not the one at the bottom of the page. That way the person you are responding to knows they have gotten a reply.
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I don't know what the heliocentric view is
This is the belief that the earth orbits the sun. Many centuries ago that was the source of the same kind of debates we are having now on evo/creo.
According to a literal interpretation of the Bible, the sun goes around the earth. In fact, everything goes around the earth. The earth is at the center of the Universe.
People at the time felt that if this was proven wrong and that the earth was thought NOT to be the center of the Universe then the Bible was proven wrong, and so all of the Xian religion.
Now I assume you have no problem dealing with the earth orbiting the sun. If you do, then I guess there's not much for me to say.
However if you don't have a problem with that, it is because you have grown up accepting, like most Xians, that the Bible doesn't have to be literally true in every case. And in that particular case, the sun going aroung the earth is just not that important.
Well, while Xians eventually got over that shock and accepted the earth going around the sun, eventually there came another inconsistency. It is what we are facing now: Evolution.
Now you can look at the past and say, okay maybe evolution is like heliocentric theory... that part of the Bible is not literally true... and move on.
Or you can say... despite already accepting some of the Bible is not literally true... for some reason how God created life MUST be LITERALLY true, or Xianity is dead.
That is to repeat the error of the past and for what reason/profit I have no idea.
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Don't you think that the moral decay of sosciety is in part due to falling away from the Bible? Isn't that what evolution has done?
No, and no.
Evolution says nothing about whether you should follow the moral teachings of the Bible or not, so no it has no bearing on the Bible or morality.
Also, and this is another topic for another thread, I don't believe that society is falling apart at all, much less because people are less religious. If anything, I feel there is a rise in religious bigotry that is causing problems worldwide. Not that people who are religious MUST be bigoted, but that many are approaching their religion this way.
Most of the violence commited in the US and around the world has been inspired by religious fanaticism (including Xian fanaticism), and not by hedonists trying to have a good time.
The current attempt by Xian fundies to purge evolution from science and replace its methodology with Intelligent Design or Creationist science is part of the problem.
By the way, why... if you feel there is such a problem with morality in the world... did you choose the nic "psycho"?
[This message has been edited by holmes, 02-03-2004]
holmes
"...what a fool believes he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away.."(D. Bros)