Creationists:: What would convince you that evolution has happened ?

"How about this one: All of the universe hatched from an egg!^[1] Or that all of the matter came from the future and time is a mobius strip!^[2] Or that there is a balance between matter and energy and there was to much energy, so it became matter!^[3] The point is that we don't know nearly enough about physics to provide evidence for any scenario. Any of those theories have just as much scientific proof as that god exists or existed and created the universe."
--Not exactly, your assertions may be potentially falsified, if not by common sense or some extrapolation from there:--[1] - 'All of the universe hatched from the egg' does not address the question of where any form of material fluctuated into existence ex nihlo.
--[2] - Besides its evidently useless attempt at toying with semantics, it fails even still. For there to be a future there most have been a past, you can't just have a 'future' come into existence where there was no space, energy, matter, or even a function of time preceding.
--[3] - That 'there is a balance between matter and energy and there was to much energy, so it became matter', like the first, ignores the question of where it initially came from. You can have matter and energy fluctuating around all you want, but you still just have matter, and/or energy.--I think that my comments are logical. Just a couple of my pennies.------------------

"As soon as I say that Im open to facts I mean realistic ones. And since facts points against evolution, they DO, I see evolution as being wrong."
--Can you list anything, what do you think may be a strong argument against the biological ToE (Theory of Evolution)?------------------

". . He cannot lie, be improved upon, or do anything else that is inconsistent with his nature."
--I think that he 'chooses' not to lie or do anything else inconsistent with his nature would be more accurate. Also, technically he can 'improve upon' himself. But its futile as the improvement will only be infinity + x. Do you see the problem in infinity + x?------------------

"And of course you and I cannot do anything inconsistent with our (fallen) natures either."
--Technically you could, but the probability? I don't think I have room for all the zero's. It would be hard to explain sufficiently in any scientifically adequate format beyond that, but I guess you could just say that its unrealistic.------------------

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[This message has been edited by TrueCreation, 06-30-2002]

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