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Adminnemooseus
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Message 62 of 67 (29195)
01-15-2003 1:24 PM
Reply to: Message 58 by Admin
12-23-2002 9:26 AM


quote:
Originally posted by Admin:
Thread closed at request of originator Peter Borger.


???

Adminnemooseus

Added by edit:

These are all the topics started by Peter Borger -

Started - Topic - Forum - Originator - Messages - Most Recent - Comments

07/08/2002 - scientific end of evolution theory (2) - Evolution - peter borger - 214 - 10/10/2002 - Closed

07/08/2002 - the scientific end of evolution theory - Evolution - peter borger - 20 - 07/10/2002

07/11/2002 - molecular genetic proof agains random mutation(1) - Evolution - peter borger - 274 - 12/23/2002 - Closed

09/19/2002 - Unwarranted conclusions in Evolution Theory - Evolution - peter borger - 100 - 10/07/2002

10/08/2002 - More non-random evolution - Evolution - peter borger - 62 - 01/15/2003 - Open, but susposed to be closed?

10/10/2002 - Richard Dawkins lack of knowleged on DNA exposed - Evolution - peter borger - 12 - 10/11/2002

10/23/2002 - molecular genetic evidence for a multipurpose genome - Evolution - peter borger - 317 - 12/20/2002

12/17/2002 - Dr Page's best example of common descent easily -- and better -- explained by the GUToB - Evolution - peter borger - 69 - 01/15/2003
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Message 63 of 67 (29203)
01-15-2003 4:44 PM
Reply to: Message 61 by Percy
01-15-2003 1:15 PM


quote:
Originally posted by Percipient:
sonnikke writes:

As is usually the case, buildings are designed by an intelligent designer, including being specifically designed to withstand earthquakes. Great analogy to show that Intelligence is required, NOT random mutation or natural selection.

Uh, Sonnikke, the anology was about knocking down the buildings, not designing and constructing them. It took you since October to think this up?

--Percy



LOL..I haven't had much time to post anything but I saw your analogy at the beginning of the thread, and regardless of whether it was about knocking buildings down, it STILL also indicates that there would be no buildings without a designer.

S

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peter borger
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Message 64 of 67 (29249)
01-16-2003 6:36 AM
Reply to: Message 59 by judge
01-15-2003 5:29 AM


Dear Judge,

Judge: Hi peter...this really belongs on the other NRM thraed, but it is closed. I have tried to read through the threads and it is possible I have missed the answer to this question, so apaolgies if I have.

Why cannot the similarities in the IG5 gene within geographically separate populations of drosophilia melanogaster not be due to gene flow in view of the fact they are really the same species?
This may be a dumb question as I am out of my depth on this forum.

PB: Geographically seperated populations says it all. Gene flow could be explanatory under the assumption that the populations have been infiltrated by migrating individuals from italy, peru and USA. However, the other mutations refute this possibility.

Judge: Also can you explain the NRM between the so called "sibling species"

PB: could you please point out the exact positions.

Best wishes,
Peter


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derwood
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Message 65 of 67 (29276)
01-16-2003 2:30 PM
Reply to: Message 60 by DanskerMan
01-15-2003 12:30 PM


quote:
Originally posted by sonnikke:
quote:
Originally posted by Percipient:
The word random doesn't even appear in the article. The sentence you quoted only notes that, as was already well known, some parts of the genome are more susceptible to mutation than others, and the increased levels of radiation have a greater impact on these "hotspots". Where the mutation takes place is random, but the probability of where the mutation might occur is not equal everywhere.

An analogy would be buildings in an earthquake. Which buildings fall is random, but weaker buildings are more likely. Correspondingly, some portions of the genome are more resistant to change than others.

--Percy


As is usually the case, buildings are designed by an intelligent designer, including being specifically designed to withstand earthquakes. Great analogy to show that Intelligence is required, NOT random mutation or natural selection.

Regards,
S


Yup - and all animals are human, too.

Can't beat this sort of logic....


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peter borger
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Message 66 of 67 (29310)
01-16-2003 7:07 PM
Reply to: Message 62 by Adminnemooseus
01-15-2003 1:24 PM


Dear Admin,

You are right. The thread should have been closed. Please close it

(To be continued in other threads that will further degrade evolutionism)

Best wishes,
Peter


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Adminnemooseus
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Message 67 of 67 (29313)
01-16-2003 7:47 PM
Reply to: Message 66 by peter borger
01-16-2003 7:07 PM


Topic closed, per request.

See message 62 for Peter B's other topics.

Adminnemooseus

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