Evolution of "light"

Hi, Wise! Your posts almost indicate that you should have a second part to that name. You might want to watch that attitude.Light didn't evolve - it's not alive. It preceded any life we know about by about 9,000,000,000 years. Light apparently first was in the Big Bang, and I can't even pretend to explain how that worked.Life around deep-sea vents is independent of light - it uses hydrogen sulfide for energy. It uses heat, too, but I sincerely doubt that radiant (infrared) energy is necessary to those bacteria.That bothers me not a bit that the poet that composed Genesis put light first. It would have been nice if he had put grasses after animals in his story, like they were on earth, but, hey, he was a poet, not a paleontologist.

Oh, I'm just supposed to take your word for that? I say it doesn't. Now, the way this works is, you try to prove me wrong with evidence. Not just repetition. You're approaching a major violation of the forum guidelines - number 2, especially - because you just keep repeating yourself without either addressing our rebuttals or providing new evidence. No, I did explain. You've just ignored me. Is this how you debate? Ignore your opponent and go on like a broken record? Frankly I'm not impressed.

Here's the beef. In the face of Piltdown, Nebraskan and Miss Lucy, evolutionists still hold dearly to their religion. BUT, their religion has a problem. In order for it to be genuine, it requires something called "light". Light is critical for evolution to take place. It is foundational.Now, how did it evolve?Moreover..Did it just happen?Yes or no?Wise

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yet again you just repeat. But for you information not all evolutionists are Atheist. I get the feeling you think that[This message has been edited by DC85, 09-01-2003]

Do you know something anthropology doesn't? Piltdown man and Nebraska man are hoaxes, sure - and discovered as such by evolutionists, I might add - but Lucy is the genuine article. Of course you don't seem to know what light is, so maybe you didn't know that. No, it's fundamental to the universe. What part of that is hard for you to understand?

we must then ask ourselves what produces light? the sun. So, how did the sun originate.Based on science:The sun was born in clouds of gas and dust called nebulae. In parts of these clouds gravity causes gas and dust to come together. As this continues the cloud shrinks, increasing its heat. The heat causes atoms of the hydrogen gas to combin to form helium (nuclear fission. This produces enormous amounts of energy as heat and LIGHT. The light continues until the hydrogen fuel runs out.

Coraqyps----Light didn't evolve - it's not alive. It preceded any life we know about by about 9,000,000,000 years. Light apparently first was in the Big Bang, and I can't even pretend to explain how that worked.Wise---Aaawwww, I see.So then light "just happened"...kind of like the Genesis account?Wise

it doesn't matter where light came from. even if light was created. it doesn't disprove Evolution

No, it's fundamental to the universe. So when the universe happened, light happened.

Light: Electromagnetic radiation that has a wavelength in the range from about 4,000 (violet) to about 7,700 (red) angstroms and may be perceived by the normal unaided human eye. -dictionary.com

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EvC Forum AdministratorHello Percy,In all due respect, I am apparently at the wrong forum then.I posed a question that has not been answered by the evolutionists. Nor can they.In such cases I may be better to go elsewhere.Too bad...It would have been GLORIOUS !WiseAd dog will always be a dog, a dog a dog...it will NEVER change species...EVER. Never forget it !

No, the Genesis account has some preexisting person speaking light into being. There is no evidence for anything preexisting the Big Bang.

does this mean you are leaving this board? if so please don't you haven't answered us...... Don't be like so many others that leave Because they can't answer or can't figure things out

Yes, clearly you thought you were at a forum where we tolerate empty repetition of pointless questions. Luckily, you were wrong.We answered your question over and over again. How come you ignored us? Is that how you witness for your god? Then I guess you're not interested in our ample evidence for new species? No, I thought not.Well, good riddance. I don't much care to talk with a broken record.