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"Modern Cell Biology doesn't support Darwinism"

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Jazzns
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Message 36 of 87 (286130)
02-13-2006 10:52 AM 		Reply to: Message 34 by Garrett
02-13-2006 10:29 AM

Re: Mutations are Pointless
Of course, biblical creationists are committed to belief in God's written Word, the Bible, which forbids bearing false witness;
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This is just about the funniest thing I have read in awhile. Someone should get Kent Hovind on the bandwagon.
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That being said, Dawkins also specifically says, and is even quoted in our article as saying, that he addresses the equivalent of information gain in one of his publishings.
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Oh yea and this has also been observed. See nylon digesting bacteria.
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Message 42 of 87 (286143)
02-13-2006 11:19 AM 		Reply to: Message 39 by Garrett
02-13-2006 11:11 AM

Re: Mutations are Pointless
It is likely that once the actual process is better understood, we'll see this as the product of a designed mechanism rather than that of a chance mutation.
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We are all still waiting with greedy anticipation for that evidence. And no I am not being sarcastic.
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I side with those who suggest this is the work of an irreducibly
complex molecular system.
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That is fine and I appreciate that. Just don't expect anyone else to be able to accept your belief system without evidence.
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It's certainly not an area of science that is settled and without controversy...is that the best evidence of mutations in the right-direction?
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No it is just the one stands out the most in my mind. Others have been brought up on this forum many times. Hemoglobin type C is one, gentic resistance to cardio pulminary disease in certain individuals of particular italian decent is another good one. I would find the links to the threads for you if you like if I am still able to locate them. TO be honest you are the first one in a long time to drag up the whole, "No new information" argument. Maybe someone else can help me with the links if they still have easy access to them.
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Of course, biblical creationists are committed to belief in God's written Word, the Bible, which forbids bearing false witness; --AIG (lest they forget)
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Jazzns
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02-13-2006 11:20 AM 		Reply to: Message 40 by Garrett
02-13-2006 11:13 AM

Re: hmmm....
He is talking about the Dawkins discussion. If you want to talk about Dawkins you should start a new thread. Just a heads up.
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Of course, biblical creationists are committed to belief in God's written Word, the Bible, which forbids bearing false witness; --AIG (lest they forget)
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Jazzns
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02-13-2006 11:44 AM 		Reply to: Message 45 by Garrett
02-13-2006 11:33 AM

Re: Mutations are Pointless
Since macro-evolution requires mutations that increase organized complexity at every step of the process, I find it supportive of my theory that only 2 or 3 obscure, and debated, examples can be cited.
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If what you need as support for your theory is the obscurity of the 2 or 3 examples that I just happened to recall off the top of my head without any effort then it is a extrodinarily POOR theory indeed.
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Although if you happen to look into those examples you will find that it is suprising that since we have had the capability to detect such things we have found 2 instances of increases in organized complexity in our own species. Given evolutionary time then there is no reason to expect that this is either isolated or a new phenomenon.
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Of course, biblical creationists are committed to belief in God's written Word, the Bible, which forbids bearing false witness; --AIG (lest they forget)
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