Human Races

I would like to refer to another point of view .
Something that differs from the well known Phenotype distinction .
The Civilization distinction.
1.There are races or subraces which "produce/ed" civilization.
2............................................. some or not at all C. But
they can absorb / adopt C. from the 1st category.
3.................................. never prodyced C. But they are unable
to absorb C. elements from the 1st category.
Explicitly no C. is equal to another in volume,quality and depth.
I base my opinion on the fact that speculation or standpoint is a subject
articulated with the DNA.

Dear crashfrog .Presuming the political deontology as science , we entrap the truth.
Races exist .But it comes as a matter of social or religious conscience to consider "Equality"
as a fundamental quality.You claim:
"The distinction is pointless, meaningless, and potentially a prelude to racism.
There's not a single thing you you bring up that you can't explain with biogeography.
Why did Europeans seem to hit that civilization before anybody else? Because they accidentally
happened to live in a part of the world with fertile soil, a long growing season, and an
astronomically large number of native species condusive to domestication."1.Do you realy know the definition of "Rasism" ?
2.Does the USA soil feed >500.000.000 people ? What was the big mystery for the American Indians
that they did not expand agriculture? If they did, what stopped them from expanding civilization ?
3.Does American Continent contain the full specrum of all climatic conditions ?
4.Is it wrong that California presents exactly the same conditions with Greece and Italy ?
5.If it`s matter of domesticated animals (animal protein) , Ancient Greeks meat consumption was in
frequency of 2-3 times/year .For philosophers, athlets and soldiers the frequency was 0.What is the Racism really?
To take a knife and kill all "strangers" (crime against humans), Or maby realisation - understanding the particularity?
The fable of equality obviously serves the "political correctness " for the survival of the interracial societies . Based on human equality.
On an "innocent" lie.

So . Let`s take some Germans (or English). Put them in Central Africa
and let them live and reproduct for some.000 years.
Is the invironment so strong to convert them to Negroids ??????
I say No.Is it safe to cancel and annul what nature , god, any other factor
formed sapiently and wisely in the name of a faulty positioned "humanity brotherhood" ??It is very easy to to "build" theories like "Lucy as the mother of humanity" .
Who said that there are no more "Mothers" in different places of the earth?Scientists say that there are diferences between Chromosomes , protoplasmatic structure
enzymatic factors (and more) but the same time they say that races is a myth?I wonder if contemporary "anthropologists" expect to see horns or scales , or maby wings,
to define a different race.........The pastors trick was to love both white and black sheep . OK
Now the trick is that all sheep are the same.My friend Crashfrog , the hot point is that if we accept the difference of the races, we lead
to the fact that there are must be superior and subordinate ones (as you wisely spotted).According to a myth of Aesopus , a fox lost his tale during a dog hunting.
He felt so bad that one day called all the other foxes and started to explain how good it feels
without this unneeded thing , how good looking is without that furry extention , and adviced all
the others to cut their tales. A long conversation followed. Finally a small fox cub said:
" But then we all gonna be polled !!!!!!"By the others it means that no argument can substitute the obvious.

Are they going to become "negroids"? Who knows? What the hell is a "negroid", and how would you recognize one? You never miss one if you have not some elementary education. The genetic data that makes it very clear that all humanity is decended from a common ancestorYes. The Bacteria. Maby the worm later . The monkey maby later on.
Let`s leave the genetic "Data" alone.
Is there a botanist to say that a tree matures its fruits in the same time??
Is there any anthropologist to claim the equality of the evolutional tree of man? There's some statistical corellation between certain genetic factors and the reigon your ancestors are from. That's a long, long step from saying "all black people are going to have heart diease." So, yes. Science identifies that people use race as a shorthand. But they also realize that there's no biological basis for race"some statistical corellation between certain genetic factors and the reigon your ancestors are from" ."shorthand"...Finally the black skin color and fleshy lips are an illusion!!!!!
Folks with white skin have an advantage in northern climes. Folks with black skin have an advantage in sunny climes. Now, explain to me which of those traits is "superior."

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You are trying to say that :"This man is not a Negro , is not a Black ,he is just standing tropical clime better!" ????
Say it my fried.It`s a free country.
I would choose to say "I love and appreciate all races and i respect everybody with his habits his religion, his ethics , color , weight ,
." Superior compared to what? Superior in what terms? By what metric? I allready refered to some "civilization term" .......but it was going with the wind...... Kinda depends on where you're standing, doesn't it? Standing on a throne of superiority or in mud ,a real thinking human never stops thinking. Kinda true? There's nothing obvious except your own prejudice.
I lay myself open to public censure

"So where does that leave you? Why did you exchange thought for prejudice?"Prejudice is when someone is convinced to see black color and white color as the same. when he says that "some" Central Africans have fleshy lips...
When he takes the exception as a rule.I know how the the modern societies pass some "truths" , but i did not expect this blindness.Always exposed to public censure .

It is not in my character to force someone to accept my claims.
A diaphony can be a good start for an interesting discussion.
As about substantively addressing, everybody can read meanings behind the words .
But OK. Let me go more clear.
I am a racist.
It means that i discern differences and distinctiveness between races in physical and mental - spiritual levels.
All those characteristics make the different races look the way they look , conduct to an individual cultural and social formation , and an individual civilizational evolution.Crashfrog`s position , is that some accidental factors act Biogeographically forming some differences .
Stopping there , is like we apologize "don`t blame me , blame the invironment".
In addition , saying that all people have melanin , skin, teeth , is a very general and we describe nothing.
There is something more important . The consciousness of the race , the C.of the common blood origin.""Real values are born only where the law of blood determines -consciously or unconsciously- the ideas
and the acts of the humans""
Al.Rozenberg

Can you tell me a singe thing about the Huns of Attilla civilization??
They had 10.000s of domesticated horses.The consciousness of the race , the C.of the common blood origin

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""What the hell does that even mean? Blood isn't conscious. ""Blood itself maby not. Adult humans i think yes.What, exactly? That's sort of what I'm asking. What magic factors do you use to determine race?To be better andertood:
-Factor 1 : The realization /understanding/feeling of the common origin .The sensation/self-knowledge of a Mongol or an Eskimo that is a part of his own group.
-Factor 2 : The Civilization that a race presented.Am i doing magic or Voodoo again???

I thing USA imports wheat from Siberia.
Is it impossible for wheat or similar cereal to grow in Mongolia and possible in Siberia?
What is Mongolia , a stone desert or a huge steppa?
What eat 100s of 1.000s of horses in Mongolia ? Some similar plants i think.Races made the Civilizations .
Technology has almost nothing to do with Civilization
T. has to do with the technical aplications .
C. has to do with the way of thinking and culture.To be proud of being an American is a duty.
I always respect people that have the sense of the Nation they belong.
USA i think is somekind of a Mother Nation contaning many Daughter nationalities .
With some differences the central idea is the same in my continent.
A Greek is a Greek but the same time a European citizen.
To be European is something explained economicaly , geographicaly , or maybe as
a mater of military defence. Nothing more exept they are all similar and historical races.
The term "European Nation" doesn`t exist.Bible refers to "The race of Adam" a very determinated one , that from Kain leads to Jesus.
The race of Hercules leads to the Athenean Pericles.
The race of Henias leads to Romans
The race of someone leaded to Zulu of Shaka.White races make the hard rock
Black races make the Blues
Other Black races make the Reggae
One European race makes the fandango
One other makes the Opera
And one other makes the Judo and the Haiku(recently also makes Nissan and many more..)

You fall into bigger mistakesWheat grows exactly where the grasses grow .USA does import wheat from Siberia . Even cats know that. Ask one.Advancement of technology???????
A monkey with a DVD in his hand is a civilized person????Lenny Kravitz can rock , can roll , can do 10.000 things .
He can never say that he is the inventor of the Rock.
Even i play the blues sometimes . Does it mean anything else but i like it?Well, I`ll tell you what.
I know that you can`t represent your Huge and Beautiful country.
Just don`t you make any more try to do this .Respect the rest of the Americans. Not me.
And a last advice.
Open some book from time to time.
Does good.
Start from The SnowWhite if Robin Hood is too sophisticated.

Asian Productivity Organization
http://www.intracen.org/...pers/country%20paper_mongolia.pdf
http://www.agr.gc.ca/mad-dam/e/bulletine/v16e/v16n06_e.htm
http://www.friends-partners.org/...culture/rusag.940725.html
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Very good information about the wheat production in Mongolia
Also a very importand point . Why Mongolians believe that they sin digging the earth.

A Definition Of Civilization
by Philip Atkinson
All Human inventions are first thoughts before they become things. So the creations of communities such as cities, governments, armies, as well as communal achievements such as conquests and discoveries everything that goes to make a civilization must spring from a community's thoughts. Hence:Civilization: is the tangible expression of a communal understanding.Communal Understanding: is that single perception allowed by the set of values common to each member of a community. For example it is this influence that decided one community to persecute the scientist Galileo and suppress his notions, while another community to honour the scientist Isaac Newton and embrace his notions. It decides what the community thinks and does.Expressed And Refined By Conversation
Communal Understanding exists, as it is expressed, in the unique language of the citizens, who mould it by their conversation.Conversation is: the daily expression and exchange of individual opinions; a mechanism that refines communal understanding by promoting popular, while suppressing unpopular, notions. That is, all those ideas which match common feelings of right and wrong, will be repeated and magnified into reasons to act, while those which receive little or no support will inevitably be ignored; which makes conversation the ideas filter, or the mind, of the community.A Community: being that group of people sharing a common understanding who reveal themselves by using the same language, manners, tradition and law.A Communal Mind: is similar in operation to an individual mind, except that audible conversation replaces silent thoughts; but the mechanism of understanding is the same ideas, expressed in words, which are filtered by a code of values to determine which should become reasons for action. If a man is an irrational vegetarian crank whose conversation is mainly tirades against imaginary persecutors, then it is this process that will decide the man's future whether as a despised social outcast, or as an absolute monarch, like Hitler. This does not mean that everyone believes what is popular, but unpopular concepts are ignored. Consequently:the term: "Advancement of technology" who`s gorgeous idea is?
Sounds like materialistic madness.Bible says "Race of Adam and Kain" not culture of Adam and KainThe descendants of a common ancestor; a family, tribe, people, or nation, believed or presumed to belong to the same stock; a lineage; a breed. "The whole race of mankind." (Shak) "Whence the long race of Alban fathers come." (Dryden)Naturalists and ehnographers divide mankind into several distinct varieties, or races. Cuvier refers them all to three, Pritchard enumerates seven, Agassiz eight, Pickering describes eleven. One of the common classifications is that of Blumenbach, who makes five races: the Caucasian, or white race, to which belong the greater part of the European nations and those of Western Asia; the Mongolian, or yellow race, occupying Tartary, China, Japan, etc.; the Ethiopian, or negro race, occupying most of Africa (except the north), Australia, Papua, and other Pacific Islands; the American, or red race, comprising the Indians of North and South America; and the Malayan, or brown race, which occupies the islands of the Indian Archipelago, etc. Many recent writers classify the Malay and American races as branches of the Mongolian. 24 best poker books for beginners to read in 2022 - POKER.MD removed underline format that made for extremely difficult reading. Please restrict formating such as underline and bold to emphasise points, not entire posts - The Queen[This message has been edited by AdminAsgara, 02-17-2004]

"""because I love my friends of different races! """I am not religius but i have to say that you are right Phatboy.
Nice and realistic position.

What does national pride have to do with race??
Nothing.
But if there is a pride for the nation as an expretion of a communal feeling, i don`t see why not for the race communal feeling also.Please explain how technology is not part of "way of thinking" and "culture".

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For example, please explain how the discovery and use of gunpowder to make weapons of war did not affect the "way of thinking" and "culture" of the Chinese?To affect something is diferent than to create or produce.How elecricity affected the Italian opera?
-Maybe we had better lights on stage , maybe the show could be played later at night . Electricity affected something , but it didn`t create the opera , and surely didn`t cancel it.Some people chanded profesion , fassions appeared , but people always stays with the basical senses of friendship , love, good or bad, always gets married . Things changed in the dimension of speed, convenience and Volume.Not in the content.
Blackpowder changed the war tactics ,but not the way of the man thinking.

Phatboy , do you think that Adam & Eve represent the humanity, or just a part of it (a race , a particular people)?