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Author Topic:   What exactly is natural selection and precisely where does it occur?
Doddy
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Message 24 of 303 (389222)
03-11-2007 9:44 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by crashfrog
03-11-2007 2:56 PM


crashfrog writes:
Where doesn't evolution happen? It happens any time that living things are reproducing through descent via modification.
They don't have to be 'living' things.

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Doddy
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Message 25 of 303 (389223)
03-11-2007 9:48 PM
Reply to: Message 19 by Fosdick
03-11-2007 7:43 PM


Re: Sexual selection vs. natural selection
Natural selection doesn’t apply to sexual selection because natural selection is not about mating”it is about differential reproduction success.
How does mating not get included in differential reproductive success?
Of course natural selection is about mating. If nobody mates with you, it affects your reproductive success, just like being eaten or diseased does. And natural selection obviously looks at these, so why not mating?
Mating preferences evolved via natural selection.
I'd read about the Handicap Theory, if I were you.
Edited by Doddy, : clarification

"And, lo, a great beast did stand before me, having seven heads, and on each head were there seven mouths, and in each mouth were there seventy times seven teeth. For truly there were seven times seven times seven times seventy teeth, meaning there were. . . okay, carry the three, adding twenty. . . plus that extra tooth on the third mouth of the sixth head. . . Well, there were indeed a great many teeth" - The Revelation of St. Bryce the Long-Winded
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Doddy
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Message 43 of 303 (389487)
03-13-2007 8:46 PM
Reply to: Message 42 by Fosdick
03-13-2007 8:33 PM


Re: No "vs" about it - Mate choice is selection
Hoot Mon writes:
Preferential mating, in and of itself, is not what is “being selected for.”
Perhaps not, it may just be a runaway mutation.
But on the other hand, it could be selected for. Given that there may be a genetic component to our preference in mate, would not those who wanted the 'fitter' mates be selected for? Would not that mating preference be conserved?

"And, lo, a great beast did stand before me, having seven heads, and on each head were there seven mouths, and in each mouth were there seventy times seven teeth. For truly there were seven times seven times seven times seventy teeth, meaning there were. . . okay, carry the three, adding twenty. . . plus that extra tooth on the third mouth of the sixth head. . . Well, there were indeed a great many teeth" - The Revelation of St. Bryce the Long-Winded
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