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NosyNed
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Message 23 of 140 (438576)
12-05-2007 11:16 AM
Reply to: Message 22 by Fosdick
12-05-2007 10:54 AM


The Law of Macro Diversity
Preamble:
Life, through the evolutionary process "explores" all accessable niches in the biosphere. Thus the degree of diversity is shaped by what the environment allows, what is reachable and what is selected for.
Here is my statement of the law:
Biodiversity increases to the maximum that the current environment allows and that the evolutionary processes working with the results of historic contingencies make possible.
Thus if an environment is very restrictive (e.g., Mars today) the resulting maximum biodiversity will be very low.
Since all living things themselves are part of the environment we ave a corollary:
After a contingent mass extinction the rate of increase in biodiversity will be high.

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NosyNed
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Message 27 of 140 (438604)
12-05-2007 1:10 PM
Reply to: Message 24 by Fosdick
12-05-2007 12:02 PM


Re: The Law of Macro Diversity
Yes, if niche/hab controls macro diversity. But (speculatively) if genes can be attributed to modifying habitats for increasing biodiversity, then maybe I can assume that macro diversity is at least partly driven my genetic variation. No?
I don't know what you mean when you say "genes can be attributed to modifying habitats ...".
Maybe all we need in a "law of macro diversity" is already accounted for by ecological theory.
Yes, I think so. That is what others mean by "ad-hoc" I think. It is contingent on the environmental conditions. Obviously some environments will allow for a wider diversity to develop and others will not. I don't see that it is any big deal at all.
BTW, I think those using 'ad-hoc' should be using the word contingent.
maybe I can assume that macro diversity is at least partly driven my genetic variation. No?
I must not understand this. It is so obvious that it seems odd to say it. Diversity obviously stems from genetic variation. Mutation (and other) generates diversity at the genetic level. Whether such diversity makes it into surviving phenotypes is dependent on the environment.

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