EvC Forum: front loading: did evos get it backwards

Email This Thread

Newer Topic | Older Topic

Author

Topic: front loading: did evos get it backwards

ICANT

Member

Posts: 6769

From: SSC

Joined: 03-12-2007

Member Rating: 1.6

Normal Thread Display

Message 41 of 164 (471549)
06-17-2008 12:00 PM

Reply to: Message 37 by Wounded King
06-16-2008 6:13 PM

Re: Do you disagree with parsimony as a principle?

Hi WK,

Wounded King writes:

No one other than perhaps creationists posits the starting point being an organism with a complex master genome.

I must have missed something somewhere.

I believe in Creation.

I believe we have a common ancestor as every living thing on earth in the original creation was produced from the earth.

I just don't believe we got from there to here the way evolutionist believe we did.

God Bless,

"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

This message is a reply to:
	Message 37 by Wounded King, posted 06-16-2008 6:13 PM		Wounded King has replied

Replies to this message:
	Message 42 by Wounded King, posted 06-17-2008 12:09 PM	ICANT has replied
	Message 43 by Brian, posted 06-17-2008 12:12 PM	ICANT has replied

ICANT

Member

Posts: 6769

From: SSC

Joined: 03-12-2007

Member Rating: 1.6

Normal Thread Display

Message 44 of 164 (471555)
06-17-2008 12:23 PM

Reply to: Message 43 by Brian
06-17-2008 12:12 PM

Re: Do you disagree with parsimony as a principle?

Brian writes:

Apart from Eve?

Eve was produced from the original creation after the original creation.

God Bless,

"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

This message is a reply to:
	Message 43 by Brian, posted 06-17-2008 12:12 PM		Brian has not replied

ICANT

Member

Posts: 6769

From: SSC

Joined: 03-12-2007

Member Rating: 1.6

Normal Thread Display

Message 45 of 164 (471560)
06-17-2008 12:50 PM

Reply to: Message 42 by Wounded King
06-17-2008 12:09 PM

Re: Do you disagree with parsimony as a principle?

Hi WK,

Wounded King writes:

... makes no sense at all to me are you saying that a planet itself is the common ancestor

I am saying in my version of creation every living creature in the original creation was formed from the earth.

They were full grown creatures capable of reproduction.

That would mean we have a common place of origin.

The elements in the living creatures are contained in the earth.

Would that not make them related.

Isn't the evolution view that everything came from the first life form that spontaneously appeared giving everything a common ancestor.

The creatures formed this way took a very long time to reach the stage they are at today.

God Bless,

"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

This message is a reply to:
	Message 42 by Wounded King, posted 06-17-2008 12:09 PM		Wounded King has not replied

Replies to this message:
	Message 46 by BeagleBob, posted 06-17-2008 1:09 PM	ICANT has not replied
	Message 47 by deerbreh, posted 06-17-2008 1:14 PM	ICANT has not replied

ICANT

Member

Posts: 6769

From: SSC

Joined: 03-12-2007

Member Rating: 1.6

Normal Thread Display

Message 55 of 164 (471844)
06-18-2008 5:23 PM

Reply to: Message 53 by deerbreh
06-18-2008 3:20 PM

Re: Do you disagree with parsimony as a principle?

deerbreh writes:

The argument that commonalities can be explained by the same creator using the same materials - well yes the logic is a little better there - but 1) that is not what was said and I think you are putting words in the mouth of ICANT.

I was walking very softly as we are in a science thread.

That would mean we have a common place of origin.

Message 45

If we trace life back to the simplest form we have a single cell critter that is supposed to have come from a chemical reaction of amino acids pounded by lightning or at least some form of coming to life.

Could you please explain the difference in everything coming from this single cell creature that came from a chemical reaction and what I proposed. I am just a dumb old Bible Thumper so explain for those with no knowledge of the process.

Thanks and
God Bless,

"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

This message is a reply to:
	Message 53 by deerbreh, posted 06-18-2008 3:20 PM		deerbreh has replied

Replies to this message:
	Message 57 by deerbreh, posted 06-18-2008 9:37 PM		ICANT has replied

ICANT

Member

Posts: 6769

From: SSC

Joined: 03-12-2007

Member Rating: 1.6

Normal Thread Display

Message 59 of 164 (471897)
06-18-2008 10:15 PM

Reply to: Message 57 by deerbreh
06-18-2008 9:37 PM

Re: Do you disagree with parsimony as a principle?

deerbreh writes:

Simple. A random collection of elements does not a common ancestor make. A single cell containing DNA might, on the other hand. There is no ancestor before the first ancestor, in other words.

I am kind of thick headed so bear with me on this.

I got a pool of chemical elements that produces a single cell life form over a long period of time this life form produces all life forms.

I got a pile of dirt full of chemical elements that produces all lifeforms these life forms produce life forms.

I really don't see the difference. But I better leave it there.

God Bless,

"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

This message is a reply to:
	Message 57 by deerbreh, posted 06-18-2008 9:37 PM		deerbreh has replied

Replies to this message:
	Message 62 by deerbreh, posted 06-19-2008 11:19 AM		ICANT has not replied

Date format: mm-dd-yyyy

Timezone: ET (US)

Newer Topic | Older Topic

Do Nothing Button

5 online now:	LamarkNewAge, Omnivorous, PaulK, Percy (Admin), Zucadragon
Newest Member:	ChatGPT
Post Volume:	Total: 916,837 Year: 4,094/9,624 Month: 965/974 Week: 292/286 Day: 13/40 Hour: 2/2