Register | Sign In


Understanding through Discussion


EvC Forum active members: 64 (9164 total)
4 online now:
Newest Member: ChatGPT
Post Volume: Total: 916,798 Year: 4,055/9,624 Month: 926/974 Week: 253/286 Day: 14/46 Hour: 0/2


Thread  Details

Email This Thread
Newer Topic | Older Topic
  
Author Topic:   How well do we understand DNA?
Ben!
Member (Idle past 1425 days)
Posts: 1161
From: Hayward, CA
Joined: 10-14-2004


Message 28 of 98 (179859)
01-23-2005 6:56 AM
Reply to: Message 27 by wj
01-23-2005 6:08 AM


Re: Broken Genes
The original gene does not serve its original purpose. It does not serve any other purpose. It is shared by a number of species which are relatively closely related.
Seems to me that you're simply stating the same thing again rather than providing an argument. As far as I can understand, just because a gene is mutated and does not serve its' original purpose does not mean that it serves no purpose.
In fact, isn't the whole neo-evolutionary theory predicated on the fact that (in super simple terms) mutations can occur to change the function of a gene? Clearly this gene does not serve it's original purpose. That does not allow us to conclude that it serves no purpose. In fact, I think it really has little to do with the argument.
It seems to me that the only way we could determine that it serves no purpose is to knock it out and see what happens. Or to determine, in another way, that there are no proteins being transcribed from this sequence. Or, if there are proteins being transcribed, to show that they do not participate in any functional role within or outside of the cell.
Or am I way off? I'm kind of out of the loop here.
Edited to clear up a poorly worded sentence, and clear up an ambiguity that crashfrog picked up on.
This message has been edited by Ben, Thursday, 2005/04/14 05:27 PM

This message is a reply to:
 Message 27 by wj, posted 01-23-2005 6:08 AM wj has not replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 31 by crashfrog, posted 01-23-2005 11:06 AM Ben! has replied
 Message 32 by TheLiteralist, posted 01-23-2005 2:11 PM Ben! has not replied

  
Ben!
Member (Idle past 1425 days)
Posts: 1161
From: Hayward, CA
Joined: 10-14-2004


Message 97 of 98 (199144)
04-14-2005 4:34 AM
Reply to: Message 31 by crashfrog
01-23-2005 11:06 AM


The sentence that I wrote was ambiguous, and you found an unintended (albeit interesting) meaning in it. WK took that and ran with it--turned out pretty interesting.
Anyway, my intended meaning was MUCH less interesting. I've changed it in the original post.
Or to determine that there are no proteins being transcribed from this sequence in another way.
now changed to
Or to determine, in another way, that there are no proteins being transcribed from this sequence.
I gave 'knocking out the gene' as one example to determine that no proteins are being transcribed from some gene. With the sentence above, I was just trying to say "I don't know all the ways we can determine that no proteins are being transcribed from a single gene."
Yes, I'm sweeping through my old threads. So no need to follow up. Just thought it's good to clear it up. Thanks for picking up on the ambiguity, I learned something about transcription that I didn't know before.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 31 by crashfrog, posted 01-23-2005 11:06 AM crashfrog has not replied

  
Newer Topic | Older Topic
Jump to:


Copyright 2001-2023 by EvC Forum, All Rights Reserved

™ Version 4.2
Innovative software from Qwixotic © 2024