Did Eyelids Evolve?

Why do my nictitating membranes feel heavy when I'm tired? If the brain tells me it's time to sleep, when did that connection with the nictitating membrane happen?

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You may as well ask when the "connection" with the brain for making your heart beat, or making your lungs breathe form. The simple answer is, the "connection" evolved as the structures did. Your lungs are a great example of an autonomous action that is still partially voluntary (you can hold your breath, but you can't stop your heart for a few seconds, for example).

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All you are doing is explaining a few of the body's basic functions, but you replace 'God created it that way', with - 'it evolved'.You are not really answering the question.

Excuse me, evolution has no mechanism. Evolution is only a theory, has only ever been a theory and scientifically is being dismantled year on year. Trying to explain it is such a problem that mainstream scientific literature even considers the possibility of life dropping in from outer space, called the theory of "panspermia""God did it" does in actual fact have a mechanism. God making it happen is a mechanism is it not? What you are doing is merely disposing of the 'God did it' theory because you have prepositioned yourself as an atheist or agnostic. You are not really examining the facts in a scholarly manner. Richard Dawkins does exactly the same thing.If we are to really discover truth, we must examine.

Oh dear. You've obviously never read the The Origin of Species then? Evolution may not be coined as a word, but the book covers the theory extensively.Also, you are quite mistaken on a theological front here also. People are not born as Christians, they are born as sinners. They need to make a rational decision at some point in their life to accept Jesus as Lord and Saviour and move from darkness into light. From death to life, so to speak.So, for the first 25 years of your life you may have had a belief in God. Not the same.Edited by Aladon, : No reason given.

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"Christians support evolution unless they are set on denying God and passing on a culture of ignorance to their children."

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Utter rubbish. Not responding to that.Edited by Aladon, : No reason given.

Thanks, wasn't used to this interface.

With respect, I neither read letters from so called Saints or letters from Clergy. There were Anglican Bishops of the 1960's declaring that God was dead. A Christian youth movement responded in song with the words, "God is Not Dead."I read the Bible and the works of Scholars who do not 'interpret' God's Word, but divide it and examine it correctly. I also read scientific works if they are written honestly.What about you? I've read some of your remarks elsewhere and it's obvious you have never really studied the Bible? What gives you the right to comment on it?

Is that the royal 'we', who will examine what I write?A Christian for over 60 years? You don't know how many humans were on the ark or that Noah would have taken food on the ark with him. Ever took an animal on a trip before?Anyway, you are correct on one thing, we are discussing eyelids, biology and the likes.Okay, is there any transitional evidence for the eyelid or any other of modern mans parts or functions?

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Ah, the No True Scotsman fallacy. Have to love that one. I clearly cannot have been a real Christian, or really have accepted Jesus, because I later became an Atheist.

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Almost true, but you must be reading between the lines because that is not what I suggested.Evolutionary theory may have progressed, but it's still a theory.

Hilarious. Gravity is a provable theory. I refer you to Isaac Newton.

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in other words, they were herbivores and could eat things like grass

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Well Adam would have been a herbivore as you call it. Thats why God gave him that organ.AS for Coccyx, it is just the end of the vertebral column that supports the head at its beginning and it must end somewhere. Wherever it ends, evolutionists will be sure to call it a vestigial tail.

You didn't notice the reason why we went off topic? As is normally the case in such discussions, evolutionists make sweeping scientific claims with NO evidence whatsoever. I was challenging that.I refer you to 'God did it', not being a mechanism, etc.Sorry for breathing - it's an involuntary function. Some kind of deal between my brain and my lungs apparently.Edited by Aladon, : missed a bit

Can we look at why evolutionists are clutching at this word - Vestigial.
Vestigial = Relating to a body part that has become small and lost its use because of evolutionary change. The American Heritage Science Dictionary I cannot discuss eyelids without first discussing this word and it's misuse. Is that permitted on this thread or must we start another and come back here once we have established some rules on the use of language?

Yet another 'off topic' post about off topic posts.Yes, have a go at my lack of knowledge.(your opinion) I didn't know I was in the company of such brilliant scholars. By the way, you're very aggressive.Okay, so we cant make challenges if we fall below a certain bar of learning. Okay - noted.Any threads on Sesame Street?

Thanks for the welcome.