Darwin- would he have changed his theory?

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Again, most of the people who are oppose creation have not even read the Bible.

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Total assumption on your part - many of the people on here who oppose the idea of creationism are christians.

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And no, the condensed version of either the Bible nor the Origin of species is not allowed

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I'm not sure what you are getting at - what condensed versions?

Does your teacher know you are spending your lesson time like this?

And, more recently, many ancient civilizations are being discovered which account for both the "myths" of Atlantis and Noah's flood.

As the idea of the flood has been destroyed more times that I can remember on this board - if you have something new to add - please let us know what it is.

Can you name those ancient civilizations? If there is enought "meat" we could start a seperate thread.

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The melting of the glaciers at the end of the ice age caused world wide flooding. Some recent discoveries lead some (non-theistic) people to believe that the world's first civilzations existed at that time.

I'll elaborate in a bit, if you like.

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please do - if you could point me towards the scientific journals in which this research is reported I would be very interested.

sorry - that's why I did ask if was enought material to spin off a topic.

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natural alloy of gold and copper called "orichalcon"

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Forgive my lack of knowledge on this subject -

1) I always assumed that an alloy was man-made?

2) We have a sample of this - because we must do if we can say that it was gold and copper?

Web searches reveal ideas of what people thought this metal was, I see no evidence of it's actual existance.

em..only that I couldn't find anything about it - did you actually read my post?

I can't find any evidence that alloys can nuturally occur - so that would seem to kill your theory stone-dead.

I am happy for someone who actually knows something about metal to correct me?

Look if you want to discuss this - present what you have IN A SEPERATE THREAD (which seems to consist of "em..er..I saw a show once..somewhere") and we do this properly.

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in what ways? you've made some vague asserations not back by any real evidence.

If there is actual evidence in there - could you point it out to me? What post is it in?

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Obviously they can, since they're mined in the Andes.........this is simply fact.

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But where? What's it called? If you are presenting it as a fact, you will be able to supply this data, if you can't it's a claim.

so we will leave it as an unproven claim for the moment - if you ever turn up any proof, let us know.