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Author Topic:   molecular genetic evidence for a multipurpose genome
monkenstick
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Message 2 of 317 (20535)
10-23-2002 2:36 AM


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Predictions:
2) predicts that a considerable part of the genes of any organism can be knocked out without being lethal.
there are a whole bunch of genes classed as embryonic lethal borger - you might want to check it out

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monkenstick
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Message 4 of 317 (20539)
10-23-2002 4:02 AM


the fact that there are numerous genes which are lethal when knocked out falsifies point 2, and thus, your theory.
*dances on the grave of borger's theory*
(see how annoying it is borger?)

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monkenstick
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Message 8 of 317 (20556)
10-23-2002 8:16 AM


the other problem with his theory is that speciation in sexually reproducing organisms has been observed.

  
monkenstick
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Message 65 of 317 (21155)
10-31-2002 2:20 AM


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I have the feeling that you can use a course.
arrogant fool

  
monkenstick
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Message 83 of 317 (21304)
11-01-2002 7:39 PM


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Mol Cells 2000 Oct 31;10(5):512-8 Related Articles, Links
Evolution of the X-linked zinc finger gene and the Y-linked zinc finger gene in primates.
Kim HS, Takenaka O.
Division of Biological Sciences, College of Natural Sciences, Pusan National University, Korea. khs307@hyowon.cc.pusan.ac.kr
We have sequenced the partial exon of the zinc finger genes (ZFX and ZFY) in 5 hominoids, 2 Old World monkeys, 1 New World monkey, and 1 prosimian. Among these primate species, the percentage similarities of the nucleotide sequence of the ZFX gene were 96-100% and 91.2-99.7% for the ZFY gene. Of 397 sites in the ZFX and ZFY gene sequences, 20 for ZFX gene and 42 for ZFY gene were found to be variable. Substitution causes 1 amino acid change in ZFX, and 5 in ZFY, among 132 amino acids. The numbers of synonymous substitutions per site (Ks) between human and the chimpanzee, gorilla and orangutan for ZFY gene were 0.026, 0.033, and 0.085, respectively. In contrast, the Ks value between human and hominoid primates for the ZFX gene was 0.008 for each comparison. Comparison of the ZFX and ZFY genes revealed that the synonymous substitution levels were higher in hominoids than in other primates. The rates of synonymous substitution per site per year were higher in the ZFY exon than in the SRY exon, and higher in the ZFY exon than in the ZFY intron, in hominoid primates.
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in this case, because borger is discussing the amount of change in a sequence, its actually rather important to know whether its the entire gene or a single exo

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monkenstick
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Message 86 of 317 (21315)
11-02-2002 12:06 AM


my mistake

  
monkenstick
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Message 88 of 317 (21325)
11-02-2002 2:38 AM


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Of course, you can always claim that space-aliens are involved
or magical invisible particles called creatons

  
monkenstick
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Message 190 of 317 (22078)
11-10-2002 2:00 AM


borger, have you ever, in the past, admitted that you were wrong about anything?
that seems to me to be the root of the problem. Even if someone conclusively demonstrated your claims to be incorrect, I doubt you'd concede defeat - its that strange confidence that the insane invariably posess about their pet crackpot theory. Show me the creatons borger.

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monkenstick
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Message 200 of 317 (22167)
11-11-2002 1:05 AM


silly me, i thought the creationists lost when they couldn't produce a single peer reviewed article in defense of their insane mythology - it turns out they won some public debates or something - why hasn't anyone notified any of the scientific journals?

  
monkenstick
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Message 250 of 317 (22821)
11-15-2002 1:57 AM


borger, what planet are you on? The existence of conserved sites in introns in no way contradicts neutral theory.

  
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