Pat Robertson shows again why the Christian Right is such a laughingstock

Ya know, Adminphat, I hate to toot my own horn...but I said some time ago that the Right will shift the issue away from Pat Robertson and turn this into yet another chance to bash the Left. Thank You, Right-Wingers, for being so utterly predictable.By the way Tal, I've noticed that you have yet to answer my question about Robertson's "retraction". I see you've been busy doing other wonderful things, but..

Yes, to all of the above yet most people peg me as liberal, mostly, I think, because I fight with self-avowed conservatives who (appear to me, at least) answer "No" to some of these questions. Odd.

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How do you define "arms"? Pistols? Rifles? Machine Guns? Grenade launchers? Tanks? Nukes?These are all arms. Obviously we need to draw a line somewhere in the list.The right constantly says they support the 2nd, but unless you want militia groups with tactical nukes, you've got to draw a line.

Check out Indian country. Check out rural West Virginia. There are plenty of places in America were people are devistatingly poor.Now, having said that, I will say this. America's poor don't really hold a candle to the poor of 3rd world countries. We don't have villages on the edges of dumps surviving off garbage.When we talk about America's poor, we are really talking about the difference in quality of life between the various classes of US citizens.Yes, many of the poor here have overweight children. Obesity and malnutrician can exist at the same time. A child living off cheese burgers will be very fat and still not "well fed".Yes, many of the poor here have shoes compaired to poor children in Central Africa, let's say. However, the point is that we are an incredibly wealthy country. It's insane that there are any children here who need to go without.Additionally, you point to Nikes as being an indicator of wealth. One of the problems the poor have is misuse of funds. I promise you there are people out there who are very poor, who have new Nikes and only one pair of pants. The shoes are a status symbol that makes the person feel better about all the things they lack. Could the money be spent better. YES. Does that mean the person isn't "poor" by US standards. NO.Finally, I want to say this. It's extremely hard to fight, let alone abolish poverity. As we raise people above the "poverity level", that bar tends to raise. If everyone in the country made 5k more a year, people would be better off, but the people at the bottom would still be at the bottom.

Let's see how the constitution defines it. What does infringed mean according to constitutional scholars?

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Health Care = Check ups and preventative medicine.Emergency room = emergencyA person who goes to the doctor, has cholesterol checked, is put on Lipator and therefore doesn't have a heart attack is getting Health Care.A person who doesn't go to the doctor, doesn't get medicine, has a heart attack and goes to the emergency room is not receiving "Health Care" he's receiving emergency services.BIG difference. Different in concept, different in execution and extremely different in cost. Preventative medicine is WAY cheaper than emergency medicine

Obviously you want something specific for evidence and will deny anything that anyone gives you. So, pray tell us, what do you want as evidence?

Well, I own pistols and rifles and grenade launchers. Don't own a machine gun, was too stupid to buy one when you could still get Thompsons mail order. Couln't afford to feed one anyway. Tank is kinda useless and somewhat conspicuous. Nuke? Again, simply not economically reasonable.But what does owning any of the above have to do with Pat Robertson?

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

With friends like these...The Saudi's, like Egypt and a host of other countries in the ME cause their own population strife then use government run newspapers and schools to blame all their troubles on the US and Isreal.I agree though, the Saudi's are our allies, that's why not one of the 9/11 terrorist was a Saudi. Oh, wait, almost all of them were.

I am talking about if those poor are starving. Are they? Or are they all well fed. After all, then can get on food stamps..well, the legal ones anyway. I'm guessing your answer is to take money from the producers and give it to the non-producers? Ok, so what if everyone makes 20,000 more a year?

This was done purposefully by UBL to drive a wedge between Saudi Arabia and the US. Remember, his beef with SA was that he didn't want US Troops on foreign soil.

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The kind and level or treatment is what's in question.Is someone given a pain killer and told the lung cancer is gonna kill them in a few weeks. Or, are they given a million dollar double lung transplant with weeks in the IC and anti-rejection drugs?

Again, "treatment" covers a very wide range.If I show up with a braintumor, I can be given a painkiller, maybe some anti-inflamitory drugs, and told to get my affairs in order. Or, I could be given a marathon 14 hour laser brain surgery.One is a lot cheaper than the other. Neither breaks the rules.Which do you think the poor get?

Once again, you don't answer my question, you answer a question of your own.I didn't ask you what "Infringe" means. I asked for a definition of "Arm".But, don't bother to answer that, you know you are beat. I'll just do it for you. The forefathers wanted to make sure that we didn't pass laws requiring amputation.Brilliant Tal

Yes! I think that adults (producers) should give some of their money to help children (non-producers). But, if you're anti-child, I can understand that. That vast majority of the Right is anti-child anyway. Okay, simple math lesson.If one person makes 100,000 a year and another person makes 50,000 a year and you give them both 20,000 more, the person that now makes 70,000 still makes less than the person now making 120,000.That's addition. If you don't understand addition, why are you arguing economics?