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Author Topic:   The Church and Homosexual Marriage
bob_gray
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Message 4 of 63 (188714)
02-26-2005 1:06 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Angeldust
02-24-2005 9:59 PM


Christian or not, how do you perceive the church's stand on homosexual marriage? And do you see any validity in the different arguements presented against homosexual marriage?
For me the answer is the same that I use for most issues. If you don't like it don't do it. Then there is no problem. Churches who are opposed to homosexual marriage simply don't have to perform them.
From the point of view of the government marriage is simply a legal union granting legal rights to the participants. From that point of view there is no rational argument (except possibly deliberate discrimination) against homosexual marriage. Why should the gender of the consenting adult participants matter to the granting of the legal protections?

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bob_gray
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Message 13 of 63 (188800)
02-26-2005 8:30 PM
Reply to: Message 7 by Angeldust
02-26-2005 5:47 PM


Some valid concerns
There are many people there saying that if your not willing to marry homosexuals then you need to turn in your credentials to perform marriages. In at least one province, any non-church officials who are unwilling to perform same-sex marriages were told to turn them in. There has been some protest in some places that ministers shouldn't get an opt out.
The question is similar to asking whether or not they would have to turn in their credentials if they didn't want to marry a mixed race couple? The answer is the same to both questions. As far as the minister is concerned, he is not a representative of the state but rather a representative of his religion. He is certainly free to say he won't perform marriages for certain people. I know that some faiths won't marry an interfaith couple, it is about the same.
Although on that note, I have heard that some countries (wish I could remember where) only civil unions are legally binding. If you want a church ceremony, you have to do the legal ceremony seperate. I'd have no issue with that.
I would certainly agree with you. The state either needs to get out of the marriage business altogether or make it a purely secular institution. For me it comes down to the issue of legal rights. Why do mixed sex couples get cheap legal protections under the law and same sex couples don't?

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