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derwood Member (Idle past 1875 days) Posts: 1457 Joined: |
That PCID would publish such crap is indicative of their low level of review - that or their desperation.
In addition, one will notice that the "double issue" consists of a handful of already available internet essays. So, I will modify the above to: this shows their low level of scrutiny AND their desperation!LOL! To see the real Davison in action, check this out... The exchange between Pim and nosivad - where Pim presents all manner of salty-refuting citations and explanations, and OutOfDate Davison responds with... hero worship and indignation... How typical... [This message has been edited by SLPx, 07-08-2003]
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3941 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0 |
quote: quote: I'm assuming you missed this, in the opening message of this topic. Moose
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3941 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0 |
What about Moose?
The Moose ps: re:http://EvC Forum: millions of years? -->EvC Forum: millions of years?
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Mammuthus Member (Idle past 6474 days) Posts: 3085 From: Munich, Germany Joined: |
Here you go
more seriously..I could not get a tree from a paper where I have free access
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nator Member (Idle past 2169 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
What, are you tryin' to start sumpthin'?
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Percy Member Posts: 22388 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 5.2 |
Going from memory, this is from Scott Adam's book The Way of the Weasel:
If you spend all of your time arguing with people who are nuts, you'll be exhausted and the nuts will still be nuts. --Percy [Found verbatim quote on web. --Percy] [This message has been edited by Percipient, 07-10-2003]
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derwood Member (Idle past 1875 days) Posts: 1457 Joined: |
A came across this on another board:
Arguing on the Internet is like running in the Special Olympics.Even if you win, you are still a retard. Mean, I suppose, but I found it hilarious...
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derwood Member (Idle past 1875 days) Posts: 1457 Joined: |
I have to laugh whenever Davison blabbers on about how much "better" Terry Trainor's den of simpletons is, and how he is unbiased and all this.
Look here:
Link to topic at Terry's Talk Origins I see at least two folks banned in that thread alone... Yeah... So much more unbviased.... {Shortened display form of URL, to restore page width to normal - Adminnemooseus} [This message has been edited by Adminnemooseus, 07-11-2003]
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Percy Member Posts: 22388 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 5.2 |
You might want to reply to Terry's message about the NG retraction being hidden away. They wrote a lengthy article about the embarassing episode in a subsequent issue that was featured prominently.
Given the ease with which the religious are duped by crying statues and such, I don't think a very strong case can be made that scientists who are temporarily fooled by fabricated data are frauds. It's the same with other examples, like Piltdown. Whoever faked the jaw and tooth was committing fraud. Whoever was convinced by it is maybe guilty of being overly credulous, but you can't list fraud among his crimes. I think we on the science side are also too quick to label people like Baugh and Hovind conscious frauds - I think they really believe what they preach. --Percy
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3941 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0 |
From message 57:
quote: Salty trying to get banned??? Also represented in the topic string in question, is the very poor control of keeping things on topic. Also, Terry and Buz both seem to be under the sway of "Morton's Demon", but with Terry, the demon's control seems to be pretty much absolute. Not so for the Buzter. Moose
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MrHambre Member (Idle past 1392 days) Posts: 1495 From: Framingham, MA, USA Joined: |
Syamsu writes: I wish that evolutionists would stop bringing up their often refuted arguments. It is dishonest to bring them up again and again without taking note of the counterarguments that have already been offered. Syamsu writes: Why this topic is in the free for all forum is because of people like you repeating the same old refuted arguments over and over and over. Syamsu writes: You lost the argument so now go away why don't you? The moderators on this site would certainly like to see some different discussion on this subject, even if it is in the free for all forum. Syamsu writes: what is sure is that this endless repetition is useless, so please refrain from it. Syamsu writes: So I think you should just go away then. Syamsu writes: You can argue that justification again if you want, but as you know I have already refuted that argument numerous times. So really there is no valid argument left, unless you have something completely new. Syamsu writes: Again, your conception of Natural Selection turns your view on Nature into something almost completely divorced from reality. Syamsu writes: You have to actually entertain the possibility that you're wrong, to have a discussion. Syamsu writes: You will just persist in having it your way, eventhough clearly you're wrong. Syamsu writes: You can't talk sensibly about whether or not variation should be included in selection, and you can't talk sensibly about the relationship of Darwinism to Social Darwinism. You contribute nothing but irate emotionalism to the discussion, you should just go away. Syamsu writes: Considering I've argued this with you several times before, it would be good if you would only make arguments that take notice of all counterarguments I have offered before in responding. Otherwise simply don't post. Syamsu writes: what is sure is that this endless repetition is useless, so please refrain from it. Syamsu writes: what is sure is that this endless repetition is useless, so please refrain from it. ------------------Quien busca, halla [This message has been edited by MrHambre, 07-25-2003]
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Adminnemooseus Administrator Posts: 3974 Joined: |
There is a LOT of totally off-topic chit-chat happening in many topics. I suggest it instead be done in this topic, or in an old or new "Short Term Topics and Messages" forum topic. Just supply a link to the source message, if needed. Kind of like a footnote system.
In too many topics, things are currently rather badly out of control. A lot of drivel happening. Let's get the (hopefully entertaining) drivel posted in more suitable places. We need membership cooperation, or it's going to come down to having to start deleting off-topic messages (God forbid). Adminnemooseus ------------------Comments on moderation procedures? - Go to Change in Moderation? or too fast closure of threads
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Adminnemooseus Administrator Posts: 3974 Joined: |
quote: Freshening the BUMP! Thinking about getting cranky, and giving out a bunch of "off-topic" violation suspensions. People, let's bring up the quality level. Adminnemooseus ------------------Comments on moderation procedures? - Go to Change in Moderation? or too fast closure of threads
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
Quoting Moose from 'has anyone changed' thread:
quote: I think Syamsu and I are in "Free For All" so as not to get suspended or censored. Maybe others too; I don't know. The fact that some of our threads are long says something about interest and import, doesn't it? If we didn't draw input from a fairly good crowd I would say your concern would be valid, except that we do draw, and I should think that would be productive to the forum. Could it be that with us over here, it's harder for you to manage our viewpoints via biased moderation tactics a we sense has been the case on some occasions? Percy says to go here because I'm disobeying forum rules and now you're saying there's too much being "dumped" here. Maybe if we were more fairly moderated as to our minority viewpoints we'd find less need to be in this oasis of freedom. Then too, often topics are such that related subtopics are beneficial to enhance the main topic. Personally, I enjoy the liberty to use a wider perspective on topics than is allowed on moderated threads, where you get the feeling of restriction by someone constantly looking over your shoulder and admonishing you.
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Adminnemooseus Administrator Posts: 3974 Joined: |
quote: I believe Peter Borger was also "sentenced" to the "Free For All" forum, but wouldn't cooperate, and thus got suspended. These matters are in the hands of Admin, and I don't wish to get into them, at least right now.
quote: There is no certain correlation between quantity of messages and quality of messages and the overall discussion. There may indeed be topics in which the quality extends deep into many pages. I, however, suspect that many topics are only good for, say, 50 messages, before going bad for whatever reason.
quote: I'm thinking that a "one on one" "Great Debate" on the topic of forum moderation methodology might be interesting. Of course, we'd have to have a preliminary debate, to decide the structure etc. of the main debate. Maybe, to really make it interesting, we could have Brad as the moderator .
quote: I was intending the loose usage of the term "dumped". As in being a synonym for "placed". There are many "Free For All" topics that are fully suitable to be in one of the more specific forums.
quote: Again, maybe a "Great Debate" is called for, on the theme of moderation.
quote: The question will be, to find the balance point between too much focus, and too much diversity. Going off on a tangent has a real tendency to lead to going even further off. One thing I really hate to see, is to have a really good, but off-topic, discussion happen - and have it buried deep somewhere where it doesn't belong. I have closed down at least 1 "Free For All" topic for this reason, with the suggestion that a new topic was needed. Enough for now,Adminnemooseus
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