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Minnemooseus
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Message 158 of 1725 (519148)
08-12-2009 2:08 AM


My last comment on RAZD the deist
In RAZD's message 4 reply to my message 1 at the "Percy is a Deist - Now what's the difference between a deist and an atheist?" topic:
The deist believes that god/s is/are essentially unknowable, that all evidence points to the way the natural world functions as created, and all we can understand is how it works.
If I had it to do over again (and here I do) I would reply to that:
The atheist believes that god/s is/are essentially unknowable, that all evidence points to the way the natural world functions as created, and all we can understand is how it works.
Deism and atheism is functionally the same thing.
I proposed a "Great Debate" to try to explore the above. My message 1 ended with the question:
So RAZD, the question is, how does your deism effect your day to day life?
RAZD declined the "Great Debate", saying:
Not interested, sorry. My faith is personal, and everyone's worldview affects their day to day affairs.
And so it ends, leaving me at "Deism and atheism is functionally the same thing."
Moose

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Minnemooseus
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Message 174 of 1725 (525301)
09-22-2009 8:53 PM


Objective evidence for atheism
At the Pseudoskepticism and logic topic:
RAZD writes:
People keep telling me there is objective evidence for atheism, but so far none has been presented.
I post this message specifically about that statement. I certainly don't recall anyone ever claiming there is objective evidence for atheism. I don't recall anyone ever claiming there is any sort of evidence for atheism.
Has anyone here made such a claim, or know of someone who made such a claim?
Moose

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Minnemooseus
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Message 177 of 1725 (525320)
09-22-2009 10:37 PM
Reply to: Message 175 by RAZD
09-22-2009 9:05 PM


Re: Objective evidence for atheism
Point taken. But I think the quoted statement does come up short of saying "there is objective evidence that God/gods do not exist", which is what I was looking for.
The place to debate this further is back in the source topic. I will review that topic further and decide if I wish to pursue the point further. Others way like to do likewise.
Moose

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